Liberal You are reading far too much into that thread. I tried my best to keep it un-melodramatic because I was thinking about leaving, and was simply listing reasons why.
I resent your implication that I made the thread for the effect/attention with no intention of leaving. that is simply not true.
I suppose you and others can believe what you want. but at the time I had no motive for the thread other than that I was considering not browsing or posting here anymore.
Ok this is scary, posting in this thread can be dangerous it seems.
Maybe he did mean it. But perhaps when the first few posts to the thread were positive he felt better and decided to stay.
I know I have the odd day, today being one, where I feel the need for a posting frenzy. Then I go weeks without posting. That is almost entirely because I feel that the minute I click submit I have made a mistake and I must run away and hide for a while.
This is a board of many intelligent, well spoken, opinionated people. For some of us to add to any thread takes guts.
Though I wouldn’t personaly start a “I’m leaving” thread I can understand why Lobsang did. He is a frequent thread starter and posts often on other threads. He would be missed if he was just suddenly went. Some people might be happy he was gone, some might be sad. But if he suddenly went it would be noticed.
He knows that. Maybe he was just having a moment of insecurity and really did feel like leaving. God knows I feel insecure everytime I post a single word…but I have the luxuary of knowing that I’m way under the radar, Lobsang isn’t.
I think the way he has dealt with this thread should show him he has nothing to fear. 
If there is any one thing that this thread should have made perfectly clear, it is that Demo is the suckee.
Unfortunately for you, she only has 28 posts in MPSIMS, so your argument falls flat, dumbass.
But that’s just… bizarre. That’s not what people in a community do. You don’t just call up your neighbor and say, “Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I’m planning on moving because you people are so smart, and I don’t fit in. Not trying to be manipulative or anything, just making the call. I’m going to hang up now, but you can call and leave something on my answering machine. Thanks.” If you do something like that, don’t be surprised when they all call each other and go, “What the hell was that all about?”
Oh?
Whiney bitch.
And, point of fact, I never said anything about the posters in MPSIMS being whiney bitches, just that whatsthereface should bugger off to said forum like one. That the posters in there had any particular characteristics is an inference made by Miller, rather than a direct statement by myself.
Now that everyone has made nicey-kissy-face, though, I suppose I should let this all drop. Yup, I suppose I should.
Don’t kid yourself. I barely ever leave GD or The BBQ Pit and all I know is that this is one whiny motherfucker. For a moment I thought I was a little insane, but then I remembered that Lobsang used to be lobley, who spent quite enough time lamenting his sorry state of affairs. The dude has had boatloads of self-pity, so much that you’d think you wouldn’t need any pity from anyone else for the rest of his life.
I seem to remember even suggesting to him that he is just failing to notice that a lot of us feel self-conscious about our posts, only that we don’t spend a lot of time with self-deprication. For a while there he’d qualify almost every post or OP with some backhand to himself. Sometimes I’ll spend hours and hours on a GD post, put a shitload of effort and thought into it, post it, and immediately feel like an idiot. But that’s my bag, there’s no need to say “but maybe I’m an idiot” in every post, there’s no need to post about my posting, there’s no need to have other people tell me what kind of poster I am.
They guy just needs to get over himself. He seems like a perfectly great dude when he can stand to be around himself. In the meantime, he’s a whiny and sometimes drunken bitch and has been for a while.
I’m quite sure a great number of us feel that way. When you post your opinion, or an argument, or a commentary, you put yourself out there for everyone to examine. You spend five minutes on something people have an infinite amount of time to pour over, analyze, and hold against you as may be. But when you start making pot-shots at yourself at the end of posts, and posting about your posts, and topping it off years later with an “I’m going to leave” pity-party… well, that’s another matter entirely, isn’t it?
Apart from a few arrogant motherfuckers, I would bet even money that most posters have a bit of self-doubt when they make some posts, in MPSIMS to CS to GD and IMHO. A familiarity with a topic isn’t a guarantee of correctness or success. You post like handy or QED and you’re bound to get some shit right, other shit wrong, and sometimes you’ll come off smelling like roses and other times you just rolled around in a corpse like a mutt. Don’t mistake arrogance or dogmatism for intelligence. You take a guy like sailor, smart as fuck in some topics, ready to back his ass up at a moment’s notice, very aggressive style, and yeah you might feel like you’re not up to snuff. But that’s only his style showing, not his knowledge base. And he had to get there, didn’t he? Wouldn’t there have to have been a time when he didn’t know his shit on encryption or boating or who knows what?
On a board like this, you not only show what you know but you test what you know. You have to put yourself out there, on the edge of plausibility (in non-GQ posts) or you’re not debating or seeking to flesh a topic out, you’re writing dissertations.
If you’re entirely confident in what you’re posting, out of GQ or polls, then you’re not interested in others opinions or looking to challenge your own. It would be no mystery that you feel “safe” then, because you won’t even be looking close enough to see if you’re wrong. That’s arrogance, pure and simple. And frankly such posters, no matter how bad their bark, come off (to me) as simpletons. They never admit they’re wrong (I mean come on, who is possibly going to be right all the time?), they look at everything very simplistically and constantly hark back to bromides and truisms. I don’t want to name names here, but I think we all have opinions on who these people could be. (Shit, it’d be a debate in itself.)
And it doesn’t just end on “I’m scared of GD” or “I’m not smart enough” or any garbage like that. People like to be seen as friendly, and humorous, and flirty, but not needy, childish, or a stalker. So even outside of debates you’re still going to be self-conscious. I can’t imagine that I could count long-term, non-self-conscious posters on one hand. (And then someone walks in and tells me I’m just projecting like a self-conscious moron… see how easy it is? 
)
Neither is his self-pity. I have no problem with the guy, but he needs to handle his insecurity on his own. Approval from other people, whether they be friends, family, or internet posters, is always fleeting. If you can’t find peace with yourself, no one else can give it to you for any period of time. I don’t know if he has deep personal problems, and I don’t wish to speculate on the matter, either. I see no reason to flame him, or bust his chops over suspected attention-whoring. But it is a pattern of behavior indicating that he needs to do something with his self-image.
I wish him luck on that quest, and hope he finds it because by all accounts he’s a good guy. In the meantime, I wish he’d STFU about self-pitying or find a forum, like LiveJournal, more conducive to general griping.
Probably not. I certainly don’t think so.
But if he’s still reading this thread, I wish he’d take this advice and remember that in a place like the SDMB, if he wasn’t welcome here he’d sure as shit know by now. A storm front piece of shit comes in and gets flamed in two minutes flat by three people. Unless Lobsang is terribly obtuse, or I missed a shitload of Lobsang-flamefests, there’s been no general commentary that he should get his ass out of here.
2 posts less than half is not quite dumbass territory, dumbass. Now take your whiny bitch ass back to what ever forum you came from.
Not all settled. That mermaid person is still pretending to have gotten Sol’s post so as not to look. like. an. idiot.
llama Listen jerk. I don’t know how to explain the joke to you in any simpler language than I have. I’ve already dumbed it down to third grade level reading comprehension, perhaps I overestimated you.
How about you either tell me what your special learning needs are so I can make the appropriate adjustments or just shut the fuck up already. You really are an idiot and your comment above just drives the point home. BTW When you are placing a period after each word you should capitalize each word. This writing style is usually done to indicate that each word is to be spoken slowly and individually like when speaking to a small child. Do. You. Understand. Now?
When I said that I didn’t think your apology was insincere I think I pretty much nailed it.
Boy, that Gaudere’s Law is one vindictive bitch isn’t it. :smack:
You should try to realize that each and every time you made the point that you supposedly got it, but then claimed there were 2 meanings. I got what you were saying. It’s not that hard to understand what you write, whether you are “dumbing” it down or not (though I find it hard to tell the difference.) What I was saying this whole time, is that I don’t believe you got the true meaning, and that you used this supposed double meaning as a way to not look dumb. I’ve met people like that before, who take a joke the wrong way, then for the next few hours constantly ask you “but you could see how someone would take it the other way, right?” I don’t need you to explain anything to me, though I do appreciate your way of trying.
And since you had a lovely BTW, I will too, though I usually hate to do this type of thing.
Let’s see, you would capitalize Llama, put a comma after it, not capitalize “listen” and put the word “you” in-between listen and jerk (with a comma after listen.) Also, “I’ve already dumbed it down to third grade level reading comprehension" is a sentence, and should have a period after it. Therefore, of course, “perhaps” should be capitalized. You should have a comma after “learning needs are" and another one after “adjustments.”
It’s kind of ironic that you looked back, saw the need for correction, and missed a few.
The fact that your corrections of everyone’s grammar on this thread are riddled with grammar mistakes is rather ironic, too.
Fuck no. I’ve only got two left and happy hour is just starting. Christ, this burns my ass. You want a cigarette, buy a pack fuckhead.
Is anyone else noticing the sexual tension between The Mermaid and The_Llama? Man, get a room already you guys!
Yeah, twenty-eight out of sixty. Fifty-nine, actually, not counting the post you made in here under her SN. How does that make my argument fall flat, exactly? That’s 47% of her posts in that forum. Not quite half, but if that three percent makes me a dumbass, I think you’re using some unreasonably narrow tolerances in making that call.
:dubious:
If you say so, dude.
That’s exactly what people in a community do. A couple weeks ago, one of my friends called to tell me he’s thinking of moving to Arizona. As much as he loves California, he’s having trouble finding work here, the rental market is insanely high, he’s got a kid now, and wants to make sure he can put him into a good school in a few years, etc. etc. Should he not have done that? Was that “bizarre?”
Suppose your neighbor said, “I’m thinking about leaving because you’re so smart and successful, and I feel like I look bad compared to you.”? Lots of people have left the SDMB for various reasons and given us their farewells and have gotten the well-wishes of everyone here. But I’ll make the point a third time: if your intention is to manipulate people, don’t be surprised when it blows up in your face.
If that was his intention. I see a lot of room for interpretation in that thread. And, damn, even if you assume the worst, it’s a hell of a lot better than the “I’m leaving because you’re all too dumb for me!” attention-whore threads, or the “Please console me over my sick child who does not, technically, exsist!” attention-whore threads. Of all the threads like this that Demo could have picked to go off on, he managed to find the most polite, self-effacing, and generally harmless one imaginable.
And, seriously, what ever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt? Maybe Lobsang was being disingenuous. Maybe he was being completely on the level. Why jump to the least flattering interpretation possible? Especially when, as Demo admited, he had no idea who Lobsang was or what his posting history was like?
I don’t need to have known Lobsang or his history to know that his post was an obfuscated plea for attention.
Ok, let me get this right. The point you are belaboring is that you think your original whoosh comment was valid because you don’t think I understood what Sol was saying?
What part of
Insisting that I could not have possibley understood what he said is being deliberately obtuse.
I am not going to lay out my credentials for you. If you want to find out, you’ll just have to get to know me better. Suffice it say I am a college graduate (with honors), English tutor and published author. Just because I don’t obssess over every little detail does not mean that I did not fully comprehend what was written. I chose what to address and what to ignore. I just happened to think it would be funnier to focus on the small detail instead of pointing out what an obnoxious jerk Sol was being hijacking the thread and needlessly flinging insults. It’s called redirection.
As for your pitiful attempt at editing my copy, thank you for making me laugh. But, because it amuses me for now, I’ll play along.
Let’s see, you would capitalize Llama
No I wouldn’t. I don’t care about you enough to bother getting your name right.
put a comma after it
unnecessary
not capitalize “listen”
listen is the first word of the sentence
and put the word “you” in-between listen and jerk
unnecessary, wordy
(with a comma after listen.)
N/a
Also, “I’ve already dumbed it down to third grade level reading comprehension" is a sentence, and should have a period after it. Therefore, of course, “perhaps” should be capitalized.
Technically, a semicolon would be more correct
You should have a comma after “learning needs are" and another one after “adjustments.”
no, offsetting the phrase “so I can make the necessary adjustments” would change the meaning. It is correct as written.
It’s kind of ironic that you looked back, saw the need for correction, and missed a few.
I addressed the one I missed.
The fact that your corrections of everyone’s grammar on this thread are riddled with grammar mistakes is rather ironic, too
Yep, it is a very common phenomenon. Perhaps you’ve heard of Gaudere’s Law?
Ok all pleasantries aside. What the hell is your problem? What are you hoping to accomplish. There is nothing that needs to be done here. Everything had died down and the thread is dwindling to a close. Go home and peace be with you.