Good point. And if you’re going to strike, do it on Sunday and/or after business hours !
If you see someone breaking the law, call the police-Don’t publicly encourage others to illegally assault them in response…especially if you happen to be a gutless wonder looking for vicarious and violent thrills.
As the video starts, the footperson appears to be stepping from the sidewalk/side and he stops in the road/path of the stationary vehicle. The driver of the vehicle is outside the vehicle and returning to the driver seat from the direction of the footperson.
We don’t know what’s gone on prior to the start of the video, but it seems likely that there was some interaction between the two individuals since the footperson appears to be speaking and gesticulating to the driver.
The footperson is standing still/“blocking the road” for six seconds before being hit by the car. The time period between the driver entering his vehicle and closing the door, and the forward movement of the vehicle into the footperson is less than two seconds.
Bingo.
If he felt threatened, it seems a bit silly to get out of the car, doesn’t it?
Nobody is disagreeing that it’s illegal to break the law by illegally blocking traffic. I entirely agree that people should not break the law.
But trying to make such actions sound extra grave by calling traffic “vital infrastructure” is also part of these pro-repression tactics.
Conservatives are trying to make it sound as though the illegal traffic-blocking activities of protestors are intrinsically so bad and dangerous that we should automatically expect drivers to assault protestors, and consider that the protestors were “asking for it” if drivers do assault them. That, as I said, is just encouraging the public to take on the task of violently repressing civil protest.
If you are talking about the USA how are you being repressed?
He was blocking traffic for less than two seconds, which I’m not sure would pass muster.
There’s still no evidence from the video that this is a protest, an attempt to block traffic, or that the footperson is an “antifa” or protester of any type.
Really, we can make up whatever fantasy we like about what has precipitated this incident.
So, I’ll have a go. The guy in the truck is a hardcore Trump supporter and white nationalist. He was driving along when he saw someone with brown-colored skin across the street. He immediately stopped his vehicle in the middle of the road, and went and punched this person while cursing them with racial epithets. He was returning to his vehicle when he encountered the footperson, who just happened to be walking by at the time and who had witnessed the incident. The white nationalist Trump supporter shoulder-butted footperson out of the way, around five feet. Footperson remonstrated with white nationalist Trump supporter as he got back into his vehicle. White nationalist Trump supporter immediately started up his vehicle, and then accelerated forward, driving his vehicle into footperson, pushing him backwards for several yards. Footperson then struck the vehicle twice with his gloved hand. White nationalist Trump supporter got out of his vehicle and gave footperson a beating.
:dubious: Do you really not understand the difference between the claims “This is a deliberate effort to encourage the attitude that violently assaulting protestors blocking traffic is normal and reasonable, in order to exert a repressive effect on acts of civil protest”, and “I personally am presently being repressed”?
Or was that just a consciously desperate attempt at further goalpost-shifting?
Maybe we should stop assuming that the guy who hedged for like a page on whether or not Heather Hayes was responsible for her own murder at the hand of neo-nazis has anything of value to say on…
…anything. At all. Seriously, just stop responding to him. He’s a fucking tool and the sooner everyone stops reading and quoting what he says, the better.
Sadly, there are enough Dopers for whom that behavior would not be particularly out of character that I’m not sure whom you’re referring to by this.
Redstate.Com again. My, oh my; it is to pity.
Attacked by car, antifa responds aggressively. My; what a scandal!
Redstate.Com — I can’t get over the irony of the citation!
Are you and your ilk even vaguely self-aware? Your leader has called for right-wingers to be violent and you get constipated over one antifa??? My.
I know the right-wing and white nationalists hate a lot more types than just Muslims, but one Googles as one can:
Here’s a list of Islamophobic incidents in the U.S.:
But as long as your ilk has petite Yvette Falarca pushing a neo-Nazi to point to, you’re happy with “Tu quoque. You too!”
Right-wing hypocrisy makes me sick.
And … Redstate.Com :smack: No; I guess you really aren’t even self-aware.
Well it applies to all of 'em, so…
Can we still laugh at/mock him?
What are we discussing? Are we discussing a video? What we aren’t discussing is the validity of the video. I made no mention of Antifa. I mentioned what the threshold for “should face criminal charges” was.
Which you still haven’t met.
What if it had been a tank. He wouldn’t have hit it then! What if it was an airplane?
What if it was a squirrel?
We aren’t talking about what ifs.
Again. The entire discussion revolves around this video. We are discussing THIS video.
We talked about the video. Unless you can come up with more factual information about that video, it is more interesting to talk about your obsessive need to latch onto dubious ficts to support your beliefs.
I just don’t see the point, because he’s looking for a reaction. Mocking is a reaction. Silence is not.
Fair enough. But many people “looking for a reaction” get angry when you simply point and laugh at them instead.