To offer more detail, the proof of intent required in such cases (depending on the specific charge) is not proof of intent to kill the person, but merely the intent to fire the gun in the person’s general direction.
This whole conversation is fundamentally stupid. You don’t get to take an action like driving a car at someone based on the mere inconvenience of being blocked.
Well yes, obviously. But it’s still a little funny to egg him on, see how far down he’s willing to dig.
Wait till the parachute drooped, motorcycle riding, special troops arrive with their water pistols and water balloons!
CMC fnord!
hush, you ! I’m *trying *to top that one here, don’t give away the game !
cite wherever you like for discussion.
How about . . . wherever the ‘incident’ in the OP occurred?
Ya know, the laws that actually matter in this case.
CMC fnord!
You’re referring to these motorcycles that special ops use and are set up for airdrop. That you thought something as old-school as this was far fetched just demonstrates your lack of knowledge. They were air dropping jeeps in gliders in WWII and yet you thought motorcycles were any kind of challenge to airdrop in modern warfare.
No one in that thread thought the airdropping was the far fetched part.
CMC fnord!
go for it. If you think the laws differ in other states then do the research and prove me wrong.
IANAL but I suffered through enough law in college to have a general understanding of it.
Here’s a real world example I had years ago. I was at a public event and a bunch of punks thought they’d try to disrupt it. One of them blocked me right in front of a policeman. I walked right through him pushing him aside with my shoulder. And yet here I stand, jail free. the officer engaged him for his behavior and not me. From a legal standpoint the punk was deliberately blocking my way and created the confrontation.
uh huh.
Here’s a Justia link that says it’s not just serious harm:
Does that help in determinng the likelihood that your started laws are the norm?, Or are even relevant in a case where we don’t know the location at all?
Here’s one thing I was taught, by a policeman, in my concealed carry class. My state (every bit as relevant as yours, I’m sure) there is a duty to retreat. If you feel threatened, you are obligated to not escalate a volatile situation to one that is physically violent.
He was slowly pulling away from the curb. This was after some kind of verbal interaction. Stick guy was given the opportunity to cease blocking the driver.
There were 2 people there and one of them wanted to leave. Not only did stick guy continue to block but he did it with a mask to avoid being identified.
Pulling away from the curb falls under retreating. Deliberately blocking the attempt falls on stick guy. Wearing a mask doesn’t help his case or cause. Masks are generally considered a tool in the commission of a crime.
I’da just walked up to the punk and said “That’s enough. You’re done.”
CMC fnord!
I took a CCW class too and the discussion of when to use was more extensive than I expected. Yes, clearly you can’t shoot someone who is pissing you off. That would be like running someone over. If a car merely touches someone they are not injured by it. In this instance the driver stopped when stick man refused to allow passage. while that’s not a full cavalry retreat he stopped before the car was used as a weapon. He didn’t get out of the car a 2nd time to confront him. Stick man then goes on to strike the car and a fight ensues.
People may not like the optics of the car touching stick man but the driver is exhibiting restraint while trying to leave.
I’m not sure what that would have accomplished. The police were already there trying to deal with it and yet they chose to continue being confrontational. If you’re saying it’s generally a good idea to de-escalate then yes, absolutely.
My response was a way of saying the police were not alone. It’s like people who try to start bar fights and find themselves staring at the bouncer and 30 more patrons behind him. The show of force becomes the de-escalation event that allows for conversation.
All that aside the driver shut it down when it became apparent stick guy wasn’t going to back off. He could have backed up a few feet giving stick guy some kind of emotional satisfaction for blocking him.
It is perfectly legal to wear a mask, for any reason.
And the name of that policeman ? Albert Einstein.
Nice ones, you two. I would have only been able to come up with the tired “and then the crowd started cheering” reply.
Penis ensued!
When you are constantly afraid, everything is a threat and you act like a tough guy in a safe setting. That’s why you shove a “punk” within a few feet of a cop. Because you know somebody will be there to save your dumb ass from a beating. Insecure coward is obvious.