Ok you pricks and prickette’s… how many of you burned your draft cards… ran away to Canada??
go ahead… stand up and be counted… if u dare…
NOT
screw you… I will fight… i wanted too, wasnt allowed… cant hardly walk now…but damm right i’ll defend my country… WILL YOU??? NO…
PROVE IT.
know what?.. hahahhhaa… dikheads… oops, is that a no-no>?>>
Hey Jeep…PROVE YOUR STATEMENTS AND YOUR SO CALLED CLAIMS…
Lets see some documentation…ask Diane how to get it.
…send your life blood to her e-mail and maybe she’ll acknowledge she recieved it or…NOT.!
As I said to Rosey, you ONLY share it with your bros.
What I described about my friend, who shall go un-nameed and you’re going to have to accept that, actually happened.
He was and still is 100%. I, other hand, have bounced around from 100, to 20, to 50, back down, and so forth.
As I further said, I have nothing but respect for those who aid vets. Many of us are pretty fucked up. Me, I’m now resigned to being what I am, which does not mean I’m beat. I’m going back to school. I’m going to whup the bastards yet!
As I said to Rosey, listen to me: Do not be quick to judge. Until you have the papers, official, in your hand, you’ve got to accept the premise that she is as at least as wiped out as myself.
Well, It sorta looks like I’m defending Rosey, and perhaps I am. It’s not my intention, but, hey, I’ve been there and seen that, and I will not back down from it. Therefore, so be it.
I encourage everybody to support ‘Rolling Thunder’ next Memorial Day Weekend.
Have the Troll bearers hold me back…
Jeep.
PROVE IT…send SS# and names and military branches, and ranks and “C” numbers and weights and measures to DIANE and have that stupid bitch verify it!!!
I won’t believe anything less than you are a low-down lying sneek of a lizzard worms excretement from the lowest rock of the Grand Canyons’ deepest oil pit if you don’t.
Military family my butt!!!
HA!
hugz filthy…
we have to stick together…even when we dont agree…
those of us who have been there…and am sad to say… i have been there… its not an easy road to hoe…
for the pricks who spend their 4 years and git out… no commitment… no control over their own … fergit it…trying to explain it to these twits is not worth the effort…
you want go know what a VET thinks… talks to one on the sidewalk!!!
Been there… wish I’d done that… gimme a pocket knife…
Bullshit.
Rosie promised, but she didn’t deliver. It’s been several days now, and she still can’t seem to get a simple e-mail from point A to point B. I fully agree that initially she wasn’t under any obligation to prove her service time. But once she agreed to it, she should have delivered. She didn’t. She just yanked people’s chains and made a total ass of herself.
Personally, I believe Rosie did the service time that she says she did. But I don’t think that matters any longer. What matters is how she’s acted today–like a complete and utter ass. We all know that there have always been plenty of shitheads, liars, braggarts, and fools in the military, just like everywhere else in life. Just because Rosie has service time doesn’t make her a saint. On this message board, she gets assessed by how she treats her fellow posters, not by whether she’s a vet.
wardensu, please don’t deliver any empty speeches about how noble the American veteran is. The people on the SDMB know the true value of the serviceman and servicewoman. Look at the post in the MPSIMS forum entitled “USS Cole.” They don’t need a lecture on how to value the sacrifices of servicepeople, especially when that lecture comes from jackasses who don’t know the first thing about truth or honor. I’m disgusted at the thought that Rosie can spend all day baiting and sneering and ridiculing everyone, and that you think her behavior is a proper occasion to wave the flag and deliver some muddled-up, shitheaded speech about the nobility of veterans.
At best, Rosie is just one more ex-military jerk-off trying to establish a claim on everyone’s respect by waving around her service time. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. If she can’t show a little respect for the people on this board, then she doesn’t get any respect.
Speaking for myself, any residual respect I might have had for Rosie was blown right out the window by today’s performance. The very posters Rosie was baiting have repeatedly and constantly shown themselves to be ten times more honorable and worthy of respect than Rosie has, with or without service time.
Rosie, you made a bunch of ridiculous racist and idiotic posts at the beginning of this thread, and when challenged on them you simply disappeared from the thread. When people continued to call you to account for them, you came back and baited everyone and insulted them.
I thought you were an embarrassment earlier on in this thread, and I posted my opinion to that effect. After today’s performance, I think you’re a fucking low-life.
That’s the end of my interaction with Rosie. I agree with what the others have said: DNFTT.
Sure, I believe that Rosie’s a veteran… a veteran McDonald’s employee. Those guys have plenty of irrationality and brainless anger floating around.
Sorry, filthy. I agree with just about everything you say about military veterans. By the way, I’m glad you shared your story. Personally, I wish more vets would. There’s a lot of history and wisdom just disappearing into the dust because vets won’t talk. Civilians aren’t children. Most of them can handle it.
However (getting back to the subject of Rosie), I still think that everyone has to show respect before they can earn respect. Rosie seems incapable of showing respect, or even common decency. I can’t join you in giving Rosie another chance.
All the best, filthy!
JTR…
I understand your assessement of the personality of Rosie.
I also feel, that after reading this thread from the beginning to this end, along with alot of uninvolved people, that she was only defending her place as the ORIGINAL poster of this topic. Sure, she made some statements that stepped on some toes, and has spent the last 3 pages having to DEFEND her statements and beliefs. How many posters have to do this for their beliefs on any other subject?
She opened this topic as a rant against the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole. It was her personal feeling. She was made to prove her reason and position in life in order to have the thoughts that she had. Is that fair?
Could anyone on this board be prepared to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that whatever they thought about anything was “society” correct? Could you?
I think that the members of this board were unnecessarily cruel and demanding on her for her thoughts, expecially as a new member, and it doesn’t make for a poster to obtain future new members.
I, for one, have just been lurking, but posted on the prompting of my friends and neighbors. I cannot believe that REAL people can be so cruel. It makes me glad that I can turn this link off and deal with the real world tomorrow.
It makes me sad that some of you really believe what you posted. I also know that if I met you on the street, you wouldn’t be anything like you are on this board…sight unseen.
People can be so hurtful towards their fellow man.
Myself included. For any hurt…I am sorry. Rosie did NOT deserve this kind of treatment…nor does anyone else that comes along with a statement that YOU,as the public,in general, don’t like.
I have learned a great deal about all subjects of life from these message boards, but am not proud about what I learned from this one.
To Rosie and the other members that have posted on this subject…I am sorry if I have offended you in any way. It was not my intent.
The topic of the U.S.S.Cole was a sincere one and my prayers go out to the families of the young soldiers involved and their families.
I pray that we do not lose site of that fact.
Rosie, I apologise for any hurt that this topic has caused you. You are indeed a vetern of this great country and deserve the respect that is due.
OK - first of all, perhaps I ought not to say anything at all, as I am not from the U.S.A. and, of course, not connected to any persons involved with military services therefrom.
Well, then I have made my excuses, and here I am.
I do now feel a need to post a small note even if only to the effect of “does R. Wolfe truly appreciate how deeply unedifying, revolting and self-pitying her expressed views are?”
I have started this post more than once, and feel uncomfortable posting at all. Trying to express what I feel in decent language is somewhat difficult.
In a time of potential trouble, inflammatory language is not helpful. Most of us know this: if Rosie Wolfe has indeed spent time in the service of a country that she loves, then I am quite certain that she does also.
Ms Wolfe, you do your country no service at all by calling down war in such a casual, unthinking and bloodthirsy manner. If you did not know this previously, then you may have become slightly wiser from reading the many comments previously posted here.
wardensu, please re-read the entire thread again. Plenty of veterans and members of veterans’ families have posted their disagreement, dismay, and even disgust with Rosie’s posts. She ain’t the best and brightest here, and she’s a particular embarrassment for some of us vets.
In addition, Rosie has done her best to act like a blustering, ranting, obnoxious ignoramus in general. I agree that it’s not a crime. However, if she wants to interact in a given community, it’s up to her to measure up to the community’s standards. In the couple months I’ve been here, there seems to be one main rule above all others: If someone talks shit on the SDMB, they get called on it. No exceptions, even for vets.
Goodnight.
JTR…
Somehow I missed that. I re-read the whole thread. Found only a few who claimed to be Vets, but weren’t asked to prove it with "C’ numbers. Found only two, who claimed to have family members, again, didn’t have to PROVE it with SS# or “C” numbers. Found Rosie repeating herself over and over again on the same points.
How were these other posters Vets?
Where did they serve at?
How long?
In what branch?
Were they active?
Are they still?
How long did they serve?
You have proof?
Let Diane verify their lives for all of us.
All I read was the opinions of a few uninformed people that stated that they ‘had family members’ that were not agreeing to Rosies’ point of view.
Where are the birth certificates that Rosie asked for to prove that these are really people posting?
Yes, I read ALL of the posts…did you? Rosie seemed to answer all of the questions asked of her, several times, but didn’t read where ANYONE answered her.! hmmmmmmmmmmm???
good night yourself.
Wardensu - I thought you made all of us a promise to go back into lurk mode. Bye-bye already.
Oh, and take the voices in your head with you.
You were WHERE when we were in diapers? Vietnam as you have implied? Behind a desk in Texas? WHERE? Do you know the date the Vietnam Conflict officially ended? What month in 1975 did you enter active duty?
I personally feel that you may have served in the military, but my doubts are with your alleged service. You keep implying some type of brotherhood with Vietnam vets and claim some noble “wanted to fight but was held back by The Man” bullshit.
BULLSHIT!!!
Your PEACE-TIME service along with your General discharge is telling another story all together. As one who serves disabled war vets nearly every fucking day of my life (yes, a few weekends each month included, with my NON-PAYING weekend volunteerism to the Homeless Veteran Program), your disgusting attempt to grasp their honor, and use it to support your ugly, hateful, prejudice, incoherent rant makes me want to spit in your ugly fuckin face! You are a waste of skin and I thank the military for tossing your ass out.
Crawl back under your shit pile, Rosie. If you truly served your time in the military, well hip-hip hurrah for you. Was it Honorable service, Rosie? The military didn’t think so, did they? Did you serve time in Vietnam? Your dates of service will show if you were there, but I know better. If not, what’s with the implication of some type of brotherhood with Vietnam vets? They are a tight little group, I’m sure most would be as disgusted with you as we are, if not more.
When you have truly earned the right to speak for all vets and until you are smart enough (I sure as hell ain’t holding my breath) to comprehend the fact that most Americans find it extremely disgusting for you to wrap yourself up in the American flag and demand the honor of truly deserving veterans just to support your hatefilled agenda, then maybe you should keep that ugly flap shut, m’kay Snookums?
filthy - Again, I am only going on what you have written about your friend, but the VA always grants certain conditions as permanent and total and rates under a special law code that pays a higher rate of pay for the disability. It is very specifically spelled out by federal law. A bilateral leg amutation would always be rated under this category as there is no possibility of the leg getting better. It is gone, therefore, permanently and totally disabled. The VA does not schedule periodic examinations to review the condition of these types of disabilities to check for worsening or improvement because they have already determined to be a permant and total condition.
You friend may have had some confusion about this due to VA Medical Center examinations and treatment. However, those examinations would not have reduced his benefit, ever. He may have had other conditions not listed as P&T, those may have been reviewed, but never the amputations.
The reason you were scheduled for exams is that your condition was not rated P&T. After a number of years, a veteran is moved into the P&T category without the special law code additional payment (reserved for special conditions such as “loss of use of”) because the VA has determined the disability to be P&T on account of how long the vet has had the condition.
No need to, everyone else who made claim to military service are respected posters who have never given any reason for us to think they were full of shit. Their words are good enough for me.
Am I the only one to notice those annoying “…” Rosie and Wardensu place after sentences? Strange, eh? :rolleyes:
Mods - Can I suggest an ISP check please?
No need to, everyone else who made claim to military service are respected posters who have never given any reason for us to think they were full of shit. Their words are good enough for me.
Am I the only one to notice those annoying “…” Rosie and Wardensu place after sentences? Strange, eh? :rolleyes:
Mods - Can I suggest an ISP check please or whatever that magic is that you use to check for those with more than one screen name? Maybe check Idnew while you’re at it.
I have a feeling our Rosie is more than a little disturbed.
No Diane, you aren’t the only one to notice. I had wardensu figured for a sock puppet after it’s first post.
Just let it go. Let them both rant until they are blue in the fingers.
You guys are wasting your time arguing with these children.
This thread should explain quite a bit.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=40609
While reading that other thread, all I could picture was that last scene in Amadeus where Salieri is being pushed down the hall of the asylum and it shows the two guys slapping at each other, fighting over a piece of hay or something.
Either that or they’s fighting over some french fried pataters, mmmmmmhhmmmmm.
Um…you asked about my signature. That’s where it came from.
:rolleyes:
I’m scared, guys. If Rosie is in the army, think of all the other loons they let in!
WWAAAAAHHH hold me!
“Monsters! Monsters from the Id!”
(sound of running footsteps in hall, gradually receding into distance)