“High paying jobs are far less available to men” relative to women.
"Both men and women are obese in large numbers. "
“For mating purposes, women between the ages of 18-35 are it.”
I said a few more things but let’s just look at the top end claims. First of all, any educated adult would know that all 3 of these things are in fact well known, well established facts by the official numbers. Hence I am actually quite surprised by your claim that you can dismiss what I wrote because it isn’t true. I can see you finding a way to disagree with my conclusions, but the basic facts…yeah.
But ok, you aren’t knowledgeable of these facts, and aren’t willing to google anything yourself. Fine.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0815/p825.html
Bam, all 3 statements established. Since you clearly don’t think the sky is blue, please tell me where your “alternate facts” are coming from? Did you not think there was an obesity epidemic? Did you not realize that “traditional” heterosexual couples, a man’s relatively high earning potential is a significant factor, going back thousands of years? Did you not know that the knee of the exponential increase in Down’s Syndrome for women is around 35?
Frankly, I just lazily grabbed the first link for each of these statements because they are well established facts that any educated adult would either be aware of, or would be able to find quickly with their own research. Now, yes, I myself don’t see how this justifies becoming a skinhead, all I was trying to say was there’s a lot of young white men who are angry, and this is why.
tomndebb: You are correct. My statement was hyperbolic. I apologize. I should have said something like “strongly suggests” or “lends credence to.”
Common Tater:
Not really. It is true that the political power of “whites” will be diluted gradually as our population evolves. The paranoia part comes in a) when someone assumes that there is something wrong with one segment of society having influence proportionate to its size in a democratic society; and b) when someone assumes that the view of some whites = the view of all whites. What if more whites agree with the non-whites than with you? (also, see my post above if you missed it.)
Smeghead:
Well, that’s why I said “ethical & political considerations aside.” In other words, of course.
asahi: You are absolutely correct about how the legal and political climate changed for Jews in a very short time in Germany. And yes, it could happen in a similar way here. But what I meant about putting people back into shame was that you can’t change things inside their heads. I’ll go out on a limb here, and speculate that the inside of a black American’s head born before the Civil Rights movement, and someone born after, had a subtle difference. It’s hard to put into words. Before then, I expect black folks weren’t certain they’d ever be “just regular people” in the eyes of non-whites. But now, while it’s obvious that there is still a lot of entrenched bullshit racism happening, at least they know that almost everyone agrees it’s wrong, and stupid. That genie can’t and should never go back in the bottle. Same goes for LGBT people.
So you accepted one fact as a gimme, but the other 2, which are trivial to verify facts that every educated adult knows about, but if you somehow forgot you can check the CDC data for the obesity numbers, and IRS data for national income numbers. If you somehow aren’t happy with my cites.
SamuelA: Men who wait until their 40s to decide they feel like maybe having a child are not automatically guaranteed a young nubile female who is irresistably hot for their bod no matter what.
The ratio of female to males in the US between the ages of 25-54 is 1:1. Cite.
The one thing you seem to be forgetting in your argument is that women have a choice also. Further, women do not invariably choose a man who is rich/gainfully employed/conventionably handsome/skinny. For that matter, **men ** do not invariably choose a female who is nubile/big-titted/fertile/young/skinny either. When I was 19, I dated a guy who was 38. I was totally sprung on him. But he started also seeing a woman his own age, and eventually chose to stay with her, because they had more in common.
Your ratio of however many poor suffering unemployed, neckbeard-having, expecting-physical-perfection-when-they-are-fucking-freaks, dudes, to one shallow spoilt chick, sounds completely made-up to me.
And that has nothing whatever to do with the issue at issue here. When I can’t get laid, I certainly don’t go around advocating for repression, hate, and genocide.
Maybe those over-forty guys will just have to learn to do what a lot of over-forty women do – settle.
Depends on the attributes one values, I guess. No matter how hot the bod, boredom will set in. Luckily for me, a ‘hot bod’ would be somewhere around #8 on my list. I hate having to explain my own jokes.
Anyway, to SamuelA, of those three assertions you make (based on your original numbering):
Somewhat mistaken. Believe it or not, there are women over 35 who actually give birth to one or more healthy kids, or are perfectly happy with adoption.
is flat-out bullshit unless you work in the porn industry or a very few others, and
frankly feels like rationalization to me.
But feel free to provide actual cites that prove me wrong.
First of all, where is this “over 40s” thing coming from? The pictures of these white supremacy rallies show an awful lot of young asshole faces.
If you think I’m wrong, and want to disprove me, don’t just make up an argument I didn’t say or even mention.
And I did address that in my post which you apparently did not actually read. I pointed out the hypocrisy in it - many of these men in question are themselves fat, yet they aren’t really interested in anyone who isn’t young and skinny.
I never said these men deserved any better, just that they are without a mate they can accept, while their ancestors might have had one under the same situation (since in the past the human population was younger and skinnier).
And so they can’t have any babies, while massive numbers of foreigners flood in and take jobs, lowering the market wage for labor. Hence their perception of a slow genocide of white people. From a certain perspective, what they are seeing is true.
White people, in the past, enslaved and murdered their way to control of this chunk of North America. Some of these descendants of them feel they are letting their slave owning great-great-grandfathers down by allowing things to reach the state they are in. (again, note that I am not trying to *justify *their actions, merely *explain *them)
As for long term solutions to this problem? Sex robots. That would fix it. Or we could do this.
To return to the OP, it’s not that you are wrong, it’s just that you are like a man explaining carefully to a wounded raging bull elephant that it’s illogical for the elephant to damage anything.