This "safe HCl" is a scam, right? [Update - Not scam. See responses from manufacturer at posts 88 and 93]

I’m not sure if that means registered for the first time, or most recently renewed?

Unrelated to that, I had to move my domain to a new registrar last year for … reasons. According to my new registrar, that domain in ~18 months old. I’ve had it for over 20 years.

For sure these folks have “scam”, or at least “ineffectual product sold as a (high priced) miracle.” written all over them. I’m just not sure the domain info means much. It might, I just don’t know.

That much at least appears to be a testable claim that has a non-zero chance of being factual. Take hydrochloric acid and dilute it enough that it isn’t too corrosive. Sell it. It won’t do crap as a cleaning agent, but it will be a) hydrochloric acid, and b) safe (enough) to handle.

Other than that, it’s pure technobabble IMO.

Honestly, HCl is already pretty safe. I mean, you don’t want to take a bath in it or anything, but if you spill it on you, you just walk over to the sink and rinse it off. If you’re slow about that, then you might get a very mild rash from it.

I always understood that once registered, it was only renewal after that but the original registration date would remain. Have you checked your domain on Whois or ICANN?

The common wisdom is a new registration that’s only good for a year is a red flag.

On the comparison chart, it lists both “safe-HCl” and normal HCl as having a pH of “<1”.

As written, this is bullshit. It’s possible they added some sort of buffer solution to HCl to weaken it, but the wording is too murky to be certain of anything.

Given the quacky tone of the ad, I would assume this is just regular HCl diluted with water. It will work more slowly than regular HCL, but when you open the bottle it will produce fewer irritating fumes, which would be sufficient to convince a certain type of person that this product is free of “bad chemicals.”

I just checked my domain and the registration date is 20+ years ago with a renewal date of a few months ago.

Sounds like I was confused. Thanks for setting me straight.

I’d agree that a business that has any hope of staying in business probably wants to buy more than a 1-year registration. If for no other reason than to insure against losing it if they muck up their renewal in the frenzy of hoped-for growth after that first highly sucessful year.

Apologies. I misread the flag. I updated the note.

This advice would only apply to very dilute HCl. Stronger solutions, such as the muriatic acid commonly found in home improvement stores, require considerable caution in handling.

I didn’t watch the video, but from the Youtube thumbnail alone it looks like they bleached away all the natural color of the shell. :roll_eyes:

The white one is the “before”.

The ad in the OP says “patented”. I would check the patent records but I have no idea what search terms can possibly apply.

I tried that. No patents turned up. Besides, if something is patented, it’s usually listed on the container.
Also, the barcode didn’t turn up in a search.

Wow, you’re right, the barcode is fake.

Oops. In that case, it looks like a mild acid like vinegar would work just as well.
(What the hell kind of encrustation was on the shell, anyway?)

The chemistry teacher said that the stuff we were working with was saturated. And when I accidentally got a little on my skin, it wasn’t a big deal. I’m sure that it can cause severe skin burns… eventually. If, for some reason, you let it, instead of rinsing it off right away.

If the video is a shill, maybe they were powdered with something that easily washed off. In the video they are “cleaned” after literally around two seconds.

Why do you say this?

The before and after images seemed to be different shells. But on closer examination it is possible that what I thought were deep scratches in the surface of the “before” (that are not in the “after”) were some sort of surface stain and the missing “tang” from the far right of the “before” shell could be hidden by the angle of the “after” photo. So they might be the same shell after all. (But still stolen by the “clean HCl” site.)

I think they are the same but taken with different focal length lenses, and a slightly different angle. And the “before” image has barnacles and weed on it.

Conc. HCl is 37% and 12 M. Yes, if you’re fast with washing it off, you’ll be okay. But I can’t recommend it. The real unpleasant part of working with any high concentration of HCl is the vapor, which will hurt and make you cough and probably isn’t good for your lungs. It really should be handled with heavy chemical gloves and a respirator if the concentrated stuff is going to be used outside a fume hood, especially in large quantities.

My guess of this stuff is probably extremely low molarity HCl. Maybe 1 M, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s lower.