This year I'm flying a Union Jack

…if they’re not too hard to find or too expensive. I mean I’m not going to out of my way to make it happen, but I’d like to fly a Brittish flag on the 4th of July. I am American, and here it might be considered in poor taste. I think it would be awfully funny.

And maybe going around and saying “God save the Queen” as people come up to the grill for their hamburgers.

Nahh - really fox them, with “The Queen is dead. Long live the King.” :wink:

When we lived in England, my parents used to throw a block party every Fourth of July (well, we called it a block party, even though we hosted, but we did invite the whole block). Hot dogs, burgers, jello salad, the works. The crowning glory was, of course, the sheet cake frosted to look like the American flag. All our neighbors came, and a grand old time was had by all.

But then, maybe the Brits have a better sense of humor than the Americans.

Did the neighbourhood host a Guy Fawkes party in November?

No, but there was somewhere we used to go on Guy Fawkes, with bonfires. I didn’t understand it at the time (I was kid, so it was all about “ooh, fire!”), but looking back, what a strange ritual.

Check it out - you can get a 3x5 Union Jack for $5.95.

Yep - on 5 November we celebrate that the conspirators who attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament were caught by setting off fireworks and burning an effigy of Guy Fawkes on a bonfire.

Remember remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot…

Are Guy Fawkes Day and Halloween getting mixed together? I was in London a few years ago in mid-October and saw a kid dressed as a vampire yelling “Penny for the Guy!” Very odd.

Um, re the OP: I think it’d be funny.

Yes, they are. Nov 5th is the traditional English celebration (of scuppering the evil papists, although that part gets glossed over :wink: ), and Halloween is very much an American import. Both being essentially meaningless events today, it’s easy to conflate them.

Reminds me of an odd story my cousin told me. Background: my aunt and uncle are Americans, but they lived in the UK for many years and their kids were all born there. The eldest - who told me this story - was twelve when they moved back to the United States.

Anyway, my cousin tells me that when she was little, her parents got her dressed in costume and took her trick or treating on Halloween. In London. The people whose houses they went to had no idea what they were doing. I wonder very much what the heck my aunt and uncle were thinking.

I think it would be funny.

Nitpick: It is the Union Flag, it can only be a Union Jack if flown from the mast of a boat.

However, if you were intending to party on a boat please just ignore me…

Can someone just clue me in on the precise nature and construction of jello salad - (NB: this isn’t just an Anglo-American confusion over the term jello - I understand that bit).

I used to nitpick on this one, although it’s really not that much of an issue - the Royals themselves aren’t too fussed about the different terms, and it’s not certain that this ‘jack’ is named after the nautical usage.

You English and your England = Britain thing that you do :rolleyes:

The gunpowder plot was in 1605 I believe and:

The Tudor dynasty in Britain came to an end when Elizabeth I died in 1603. The crown was passed to James of Scotland, heralding the Stuart line rulers. The new king was called James VI in Scotland and James I in England.

James was the son of Mary, queen of Scots, and her second husband, the feeble Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley. Born 1566, he became king of Scotland the next year when his mother was forced to abdicate. Although Mary was Catholic, James remained a staunch Protestant. He alienated both the Puritans and Catholics by attempting to bring about a closer union between Scotland and England. The Catholics plotted his death with the intention of bringing a Catholic king to the throne.

Thanks, no more nitpicks!

Basically it’s gelatin with various bits of fruit inside (usually oranges, apples, cherries, and so forth. But not pineapple, it has a chemical which prevents the Jell-O from setting.) It’s usually put into a “mold,” a metal container that will make the Jell-O into a neat shape, with flutes and stuff. After it is turned out onto a plate, whipped cream is usally added to the top.


1 small pkg of lime Jell-O dissolved in 1 c hot water
1 c cottage cheese
½ c mayonnaise
1 small can condensed milk
1 small can crushed pineapple
½ c nuts (optional)

Mix all ingredients and place in gelatin mold. Refrigerate overnight. Remove from gelatin mold and place on cold plate before serving.



1 c water
¼ c sugar
1 c crushed pineapple (and juice)
1 large box strawberry-banana Jell-O
1 c Cool Whip
1 pkg cream cheese
1 c pecans

Take water, sugar and pineapple and bring to a boil. Add Jell-O. Mix well. Pour into mold. Refrigerate till semi-thick. Beat cream cheese together and mix in whipping cream and pecans. Add to Jell-O mixture and let gel.
Eat at your own risk. Some people love this. Others find it disgusting. YMMV.

No, I’m not English, and was specifically meaning English = English ::rolleyes back at you:: because I’ve no idea how significant Nov 5th is north of the border.

Rule of thumb: a Scot is a Scot until he’s a mass murderer, then he’s British. Same with the Welsh. (You get my meaning.)

This cuts both ways. Note anything that one could equally quibble over in the statement, ‘The Tudor dynasty in Britain came to an end when Elizabeth I died in 1603’?

Not that she had been queen only in England.