Check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/10/thong.check.reut/index.html
Thoughts/comments?
she was obviously worrying about the ‘bottom line’.**
** courtesy of Snookie
Let me see if I can get this straight. I am going to make sure that girls might not expose themselves by making them expose themselves.
This woman should be fired for sheer stupidity alone.
I don’t know. I’ve stopped going to school dances out of sheer shame from the way teenage girls dance. Even at the prom week before last, I sat the whole time in shock at the way teenage girls would expose themselves even when wearing such beautiful gowns. The girls kept begging me to get up and dance with them, but there was no way in hell I was going to associate myself with such debauchery.
The vice principal went about it the wrong way. She should have just canceled the dance. I really do feel for her. I totally understand where she’s coming from. I get so sick and tired of the sexual dynamic between teenage girls and boys. It’s animal-like and nauseating. There’s nothing sweet or romantic about it. We’re talking straight-up casual fucking between 15 year olds and younger. The girls lack self-esteem of any kind, and the boys have absolutely no respect for women because they see women as fuckrags. The clothes may only be a symptom, but the disease is enough to make me often hate my job.
I’m not saying what she did was right, but I do think she had the best of intentions.
Now I’m just imagining someone’s thong snapping off and hitting an innocent bystander.
thwack! Oh God, my eye! My eye!
Wow.
Thongs -> simulated sex on the dancefloor -> real fucking -> disrespectful boys + girls with self-esteem problems?
Beware the thong, underwear of the devil!
And as for the “freak” dancing comments… I’ll file that with criticisms of the Charleston, rag-time dance, the Foxtrot and the Tango.
**- J.R. MacMahon, “Unspeakable Jazz Must Go!,” The Ladies’ Home Journal, December 1921
“That’s really what I wanted,” she said. “If they were going to ‘freak,’ at least their bottoms were going to be covered. ‘Freak’ dancing is not a fun thing to watch all night. I’ve had employees who have been ‘freaked’ upon.”
This paragraph, especially the last sentence makes me snicker. I don’t know why.
File it with whatever you want. I cannot tell you the number of times I’ve had this conversation.
Me: This freak dancing is out of control.
Self-righteous Ass: They said that about Elvis too.
No fuckin’ duh. I’m not a backwater redneck. I’m intelligent enough to have considered that I’m just growing older, and therefore whatever the “new” thing is, I will be offended by it. I’ve considered that. I’ve tried to reconcile the freak dancing with the criticisms of the Charleston et al. Even my father tried to defend my students’ dancing styles until he saw them doing it. I’m only 25, and I think I’m close enough to my students’ generation to be able to safely judge from my perspective. It’s over the top. When teachers say that “Freak dancing simulates sex”, we don’t mean it in the Patrick Swayze Dirty Dancing hyperbolic way. We mean it in a much more literal way.
What the hell is “freak” dancing anyway? I assume it’s not related to the disco song by Chic, since the VP is probably of an age to remember disco.
What would have been wrong with issuing an edict forbidding thongs during the week before the dance, and then evicting anyone who showed butt, on the grounds that they’d been warned?
Freak dancing is when the girl leans completely over, or otherwise makes her ass available, sticks her ass in the air, and allows any boy to come up behind her and mimic doggie style sex.
It used to be fairly tame, but now with the micro minis and thong underwear, it’s nothing short of a porn exhibition. On any given night, you’ll see more muff (or lack thereof) than in your monthly installment of Penthouse. We’re lucky girls aren’t getting pregnant on the dance floor. The whole scene is like something out of a Greek orgy.
Didn’t this school pay the electric bill? Keep the lights on! If the kids are too shy to dance in full light-----well, they don’t sound like they’re shy. It’s nice this teacher is so concerned but policing panties or the lack thereof is not helping anyone form self-esteem. I may choose to go to a nightclub in a short skirt and dance with a male and if I want to freak him, that’s his good luck, but if the bouncer pulls up my skirt for a thong inspection, I will call it assault. Teachers who have sought to look at their students’ underclothes have usually been thought of as pedophiles, no matter how much these teachers claimed to ‘love children’.
So I’m a self-righteous ass? I’m sorry. I apologise for the analogy I attempted to draw. Clearly it offended you, something I did not intend. In fact, apparently it was offensive enough for you to throw an insult at me, in IMHO of all places.
Big difference. You’re an adult. And your mother isn’t going to call the club and blame them when she finds out what you were doing.
We don’t have to SEEK to see their undies. Their undies are as much a part of the outfit as their shirts!
And as an aside, it never ceases to amaze me how quickly our society is willing to villify teachers. You hand over your children to us, expecting us to educate, guide, inspire, and protect them as if they were our own (in loco parentis), and yet we’re perverts, pedophiles, child molesters, and the sole reason your child isn’t doing well. For every bad teacher, there are myriads of good ones. And no, I don’t have a cite for that.
I apologize if I misread your intent, but it seemed as though you were dismissing my distaste of freak dancing as the rantings of a conservative Bible-thumper much like those who criticized the Charleston as too sexually charged.
Your post still seems condescending to me, but all apologies if I misread.
If you, as a teacher, make me pull up my skirt to show you my underwear, or take off my top to show you I have a bra on, you’re out of line. End of story.
Furthermore, if you discriminate between students on basis of looks (oh, you look matronly, of course you’re wearing correct clothing), then you are further out of line.
If teachers are so concerned about “freak dancing” and “showing muff,” then they should issue a warning beforehand and tell offenders what’s going to happen (calling parents, expulsion from the dance, etc.).
You are ESPECIALLY out of line as a teacher if you make me disrobe in front of males. That just doesn’t cut it in my world and makes you ripe for a lawsuit.
Not that I condone some of the things that went on at my high school proms, but that’s why I left prom after an hour. And I sure as heck would’ve left prom after five seconds had I been forced to take my clothes off.
Good lord.
Well, why not just ban that?
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Whaddya mean, used to be? How can it ever have been tame? Again I say, it sounds as if the act itself should be banned, not this thing or that thing that could push it over the line. Hell, it sounds like it is over the line!
I’m saying ‘hell’ a lot. Can I do that in IMHO?
No worries. 
FTR, when I said “as for the “freak” dancing comments”, I was referring to the teacher’s comments contained in the linked article in the OP. And I don’t think you’re backwoods hick anyway, shrew.
I can agree with this.
I can agree with this as well.
Every school handbook I’ve seen has rules about appropriate clothing.
Hmmmm, now these girls will bend over and show the world their goods, but making them show the strap to their undies is lawsuit fodder? Somehow I think these girls will survive the embarrassment.
Again, I do not condone the vice principal’s behavior. Had I been her, I wouldn’t have bothered with the dance at all. I am offended, however, at the public’s willingness to side with the teens here. “These girls have rights!” No one’s questioning that, but schools have responsibilities to the children, society’s standards of decency, and parents.
Well, it was tame compared to what it is now. At least the girls were standing up, and although the guy was behind her, there was less of the actual contact taking place.
Well hell, Rilchiam, if society gets this outraged over a teenager’s right to wear thong underwear, imagine how outraged they’d be if we tried to tell them how to dance.
Kevin Bacon would probably show up himself.
What I’m hoping is that it’s a fad like anything else. The girl-on-girl dancing is annoying too, but at least they’re usually standing.
Ah, I could’ve sworn that was directed at me. Thanks