Yeah, it seems I misremembered that, or confused the two, or both. As I said, I stopped following X-stuff around the time he broke up with Kitty the first time, and only look stuff up when it interferes with other stuff I am reading (I learned a lot catching up during War of Kings).
I tend to agree with Little Nemo. Extremely powerful main characters are scaled down in movies, while ‘normal’ main characters are improved. Comic book movies also often don’t have power continuity, which is usually my biggest gripe. Comic series also lose power continuity over time, but it’s more glaring in a 2 1/2 hour dose.
I think Omega is based on potential. Iceman is an Omega because at the upper limits of his powers, he is completely unkillable and can apparently freeze every molecule in a person, area, or even the whole planet.
Ok, that made me snort water up my nose.
I loved the first Iron Man movie, and the second one was pretty good. i saw Captain America - meh. I watched that one just for his pretty muscles, too.
I do feel like this movie suffered because we saw it right after Captain America.
My wife asked some questions that I wasn’t sure how to answer because I mostly read Spider-Man. But as I understand it:
Your basic Marvel Universe has several significant sub-divisions: The Pre-historic world of Kazan, which I think also includes Conan and Red Sonja in there; the ‘normal’ world in which most of the stories take place; the extra-terrestrial world where aliens like the ones who build Xavier’s Danger Room live, and supervening over all that is the Cosmic-level marvel universe where you get world-destroying powers like Galactus and The Beyonder.
I don’t recall whether the Asgardian pantheon is considered extra-terrestrial or Cosmic. I don’t think any of them have the actual The Power Cosmic ™, but they are gods.
And related points that I myself dimly recall:
Isn’t Thor married to Sif?
Is Impossible Man alien or Cosmic?
Also, Captain America related:
Didn’t Bucky have his own comic?
Am I supposed to know who the guy on the Captain’s team with the beard is? Because he was too uniquely bearded to be just some guy.
I tried to describe to my wife this relatively low-powered era of costumed heroes from WWII, most of which I know about because of a Marvel-phile article in Dragon Magazine many years ago. It included a guy who was curtain-thin and who flew a jet only he could get into, and an Ubermensch villain with a swastika on his chest. Were any of those people slyly referenced in the film where I’ve missed it?
I think you’re referring to Dum Dum Dugan, one-time circus strongman turned standout member of the Howling Commandos (which they reference with that WAH-HOO when shooting their way out of the prison camp). In the comics, he’s Nick Fury’s right-hand man (the idea being that Nick, like Cap, fought in WWII – as shown in the Sgt Fury and his Howling Commandos comic).
You mean space Jeaus? Also known as the Silver Surfer. He could solo the JLA and the JSA. Marvel tends to keep the top tier guys out in space…where Thor should be as he’s written better off of Midgard.
JLA? Probably. Superman (Earth-1, not Earth-Post Crisis) could take Surfer out easily. Also, Zatanna and Martian Manhunter (and maaaaybe Green Lantern. Maybe.) have a chance. Surfer (and Galactus) aren’t completely invulnerable. Dr. Strange once took out Galactus by twiddling his fingers and casting a pretty minor spell (“Images of Ikkon”) which made Galactus see the souls of all the sentient beings he’d eaten. Galactus shows up, Strange twiddles his fingers, Galactus’s eyes go wide. Galactus faints. Great moment. Theoretically Manhunter or Zatanna might be able to do that. Here: http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/galactusbeatdown1.jpg. Space-Sissy, The Suffering Surfer has more guilt in his little finger than Galactus has in his whole body. A spell like that would cause Surfer’s head to explode.
JSA? No. The Spectre could squash the Surfer like the chrome-plated bug he is. Especially if he’s in his “Wrath of GOD” mode–Surfer has committed genocide on a scale (by Spectre’s rules) that would make the Spectre go all Sodom and Gomorrah on his ass.
Setting Spectre aside, you’ve got Dr. Fate (who’s on the same level of power as Dr. Strange) and Johnny Thunder who, assuming he gets a good roll on the “what happens next” dice, has a Thunderbolt which can do…literally…anything. Johnny’s T-Bolt (as opposed to the more limited one that Jackeem has) is on a power-level of an Elder of the Universe with an Infinity Gauntleted hand holding a Cosmic Cube while sitting on the Miracle Machine. The only limit is that the T-Bolt (probably) won’t commit cold blooded murder* and that Johnny’s an idiot.
The JSA would eat the Surfer for lunch.
*He doesn’t count erasing people from history, but don’t ask him to shoot them.
Ka-zar and several others live in an area called the Savage Land, which is a pre-historic area hidden on the current Earth. I’m pretty sure Conan and Red Sonja have been (mostly) kept separate from the mainstream Marvel universe, when Marvel had rights to publish them. (Marvel may have always had the rights, but again, I’m unsure). Marvel tends to do cosmic adventures much better than DC, and I agree that they tend to be better when they are kept away from Earth.
Asgardians have the Odin-Force, which is similar but different to the The Power Cosmic sup[/sup]. Galactus has been shown to ignore Thor and Hercules as insignificant, but I don’t know if Zeus/Odin would get the same treatment. It’s probably been addressed, but I’ve missed it.
Sif has definitely spent time as a significant other. I think the movie hinted towards the end that Sif was going to move in on Thor as he couldn’t easily reach Midgard and Jane. I’d like to see that three-way relationship given some time in the next Thor movie. (Not that way…get your mind out of the gutters.*)
Alien
5 - Don’t know
6 - Dum Dum Dugan. Marvel is good at throwing in things fans will know and like, but that don’t distract from the movie if they don’t get exposition.
7 - Not the first. Don’t know about the second
Not “cosmic” in the Marvel sense (which generally has to do with "Did Jim Starlin or Steve Englehart write them in the '70s), and depending on who the writer is, sometimes extra-terrestrial, but even from their earliest appearances, they always said that they were really powerful immortals but they were not GOD as such.
Kidding aside, in Marvel, “Cosmic” usually refers to Jim Starlin/Steve Englehart books from the '70s that are set in space and deal with UNIVERSE-SHAKING storylines. And the descendants of those books.
They have an understanding, but no, they’ve never actually been married.
Just an alien. An incredibly annoying one. And all the Impossible Mans are the same person. And eating their planet (“Poppup”) gives Galactus cosmic indigestion and turns him into a giant space-brain for a while.
Not in the '40s, but he was a member of the Young Allies and I think they had their own title. He’s back now (and the story was so good that I actually approve of bringing him back) and he does currently have his own book under his current name (“Winter Soldier”)
They weren’t all that low powered. Sub-Mariner could take out battleships with ease, Human Torch could turn tidal waves into steam, etc. DC had much lower-powered characters in their early days. Sub-mariner (in his first appearance) would beat the snot out of Superman from Action 1. Dragon often got stuff like that way, WAY wrong. There was an early Dragon magazine that said Gandalf was (something like) a 2nd level wizard because he could only barely cast “fireball” Um…no.
The curtain thin guy might have been the copyright-infringingly named Thin Man. The linked article describes his powers as stretching, but I thought his gimmick was he could turn 2-dimensional.
Probably Master Man, a blatant mid '70s rip off of Captain Nazi from Captain Marvel Jr, circa 1940.
A little sleuthing shows Marvel held the Conan license from 1970 - 2000. Given the 30 year frame, “mostly” separated works. Whenever Marvel gets a license, they can’t help themselves. They’ve got to screw with it someway in Marvel Universe continuity (such as Spiderman vs. Megatron).
I thought Loki just intrerrupted Thor’s ceremony because he thought it would be funny to do so with no intentions beyond just ruining his brother’s big day. He seemed to not want Thor to go fight the Frost Giants and I think he was genuinely shocked to find out he was one. After that, his motivations started to change. Once he saw his father kick Thor out, he saw that as a chance to prove to his father he was different from the rest of the Frost Giants and from Thor, but he had to keep Thor out of the picture. He was actually leading the Frost Giants into a trap so his father would see that he had defended the kingdom. He just hoped his father wouldn’t know that he was the reason they were able to enter in the first place. He was just trying to please his father, while being jealous of his brother. More of a tragic character.
He’s a full on jerk by the time the Avengers come into play though.
Not really, no. He’s Flash level fast so he would blitz everyone into paste before they had time to think. Even without his speed his AOE would take down everyone but Superman and j’onn. He has beaten Gladiator numerous times and Glads is Superman plus. And Johnny won’t have time to say or think anything before he is vaporized.
And your 5d imps aren’t at IG wearer level. Not even close. Again though, he’s dead before he can think.
Actually, having looked them up out of curiosity, I take this back…Epsilons are surprisingly underrepresented among the Morlocks.
It seems like the bulk of them are Alphas, Betas and Gammas, and few Deltas or Epsilons. None of the really major Morlocks are Delta or Epsilon, and they’re fairly evenly split between Gamma and Alpha/Beta. With at least one potential Omega at one point. (The last would be Storm, who led them for a while.)
(Many of the Alphas and Deltas are deformed, it’s just not due to their mutations.)
