…what happens when they assert that they are in fact alive? What legal procedure do you need to be declared alive? When my grandfather died, his SS checks kept coming-even after my mother wote a letter to SS, enclosing a copy of the death certificate. incidentally, SS ought to be the best source for long lived people-does the SS administration admit to sending checks to somebody, say > 120 years old?
You have the right to appeal any decision made by the Social Security Administration, including a decision that you are dead.
Although if I were the one declared dead I think I’d just go to my local SSA office and present myself as alive with identification.
After a credit report of mine came back saying I was no longer with the living, that’s all I did . . . well, actually I told my Mom. She’s an SSA claims rep. So, naturally when I told her I expired, she shed one tear . . .
. . . and then beep boop bip, fixed it the next day at her office. Thus, I’m alive again.
Trust me man, being dead’s a real bitch!
Formerly, the Social Security Administration did not ask for age verification unless a person claimed age-related benefits (at which point submitting a birth certificate would be required). Thus a person who never claimed age-related SS benefits could get away with lying about his or her age.
But more likely, an extravagantly long lifespan in SSA records was the result of clerical data entry error.
Keeping in mind that the first Social Security numbers were issued in November 1936, you’ll find in the Social Security Death Index:
- 16 people born in 1836 (one of whom died in 1984, and five of whom died before November 1936).
- 55 people born in 1819 (one of whom died in 1994, and sixteen of whom died before November 1936).
Is this remotely possible? Born in 1819, died 1994? This equates to 175, a statistically UNLIKELY lifespan. (As far as I know, no human has lived past 122!
You know what they say about statistics…
I am glad to learn that this was a later requirement. My Grandmother was born in 1901 or 1902. Her birth, and Baptism (and based on this later the birth certificates of her Children) said she was born in 1902.
In 1966, SS somehow became convinced she had been born in 1901 and made her eligible for whatever Medicare and SocSec were extant in '66. This OUTRAGED her a Lady of a certain age and all that - but SS was adamant at the time. She never agreed with SS’s assessment – even when she felt she was legitimately in the system she would gum up the works by putting her “REAL” birthdate on all SS forms. This caused problems almost constantly. Eventually, by the early 80’s, SS seemed to tolerate her(?) eccentricy and an uneasy peace seemed to settle in between them — but when she died in 1995 (aged either 94 or 93) she was still insistent SS was wrong. Her final closeout post-death SS statement listed her brithdate as 1902
Way to tell a long, pointless story in GQ and step on the punch-line jimmmy! :wally
SS’s last statement had her b-day in 1901 - they never changed it.
Well, that’s my whole point. These are obviously incorrect records. They are the result either of lies, or of clerical errors.
It would be interesting to look her up in the 1910 and 1920 U.S. censuses, and see how old she was then. Give me her maiden name, and where she was living in those years, and I can do so for you.
It’s a presumption of death. See 20 C.F.R. 404.721
I recently found (and then lost) a description of the procedure followed by the SSA in the case where the presumption is invoked and then the worker shows up alive. It was part of my research for What happens when someone “legally dead” shows up alive?
No biggie though. It basically says you have to show identification and answer some questions.