Thoughts on your boss talking "down" to you? Screw that? Or take your lumps?

Your expiriences or thoughts please.

I consider myself lucky. I do not currently have an A-hole of a boss.

That being said, I do realize that work can be stressful and sometimes our emotions can get the best of us. So if it’s just once in a blue moon, I could handle my boss getting a little snippy with me for a minor fuck up.

I don’t know if I could take that on a regular basis though. But then again, easy for me to say; I haven’t had to deal with an A-hole boss since I was a teenager. I’d LIKE to say I wouldn’t put up with any shit, but you know what? The economy sucks and I do need my job.

Depends on the boss. I’ve had good bosses who, every once in a while, get frustrated and blow off some steam. They are human, too. That’s it, we move on, we’re all professionals. It sucks to get yelled at, but most of the time I tune it out with the knowledge that everything will blow over soon enough.

I’ve also had bad bosses – one terrible one – who was quite simply a mean person. It sucked to get yelled at all the time, especially when everyone knew that this person was not competent in the slightest. That job was really, really difficult. I fought back at times, including in dramatic fashion once or twice, but there was no way to fix the situation. I left that particular position, and it couldn’t have happened soon enough.

When I was a boss, I had one employee who took umbrage at every other sentence that came out of my mouth. I freely admitted that I was human and once in a while I would vent, but this woman wouldn’t allow that and would run off to HR or to my boss at the drop of a hat. Even at something said in her presence but not in the least about her.

So it works both ways. Bosses are human. Employees are human. My devoutest hope is that both parties are adult enough to wait until a calm moment and then discuss any problems that might exist between them, and to allow the other person to be - wait for it - human!

I am very grateful not to be a boss any more. It’s not worth the aggravation.
Roddy

I have a really great boss so I can overlook the very few times she’s gone all trippy on me.

The amount of bullshit I can put up with is directly proportional to my salary.

Depends on the situation.

I had a boss dress me down in front of the whole department for something that turned out to not be my fault. I told him I hadn’t done the trade, it was another analyst who had already gone home. He went on as to how stupid was I that I thought I could blame it on someone else who wasn’t there.

Later in the day he caught up with me in the stairwell and apologized saying they had pulled the days trades and it was indeed the other person who screwed up. I was like, “This is so not good enough. Apologize in front of the whole team or I go to HR for the way you spoke to me.” To his credit he did. He was a decent guy and if he’d just been privately talking down to me, I would have probably not worried too much about it knowing he was stressing out. But in front of the whole team, he needed to eat a little crow.

I find myself imagining a large steel spike poking into my boss’s skull, the way we use to kill frogs in high school biology, to scramble what little brain matter she has whenever my boss gets that way. In a better job market I wouldn’t put up with crap. Currently, I silently keep repeating, “Health insurance. Health insurance. Goddammit if we only had national Health insurance.”

I worked in a Hospital where the director of engineering would trip out and start scrreaming at who every was handy. I let it be known that I hoped he never did it to me. I would have one of three responses: The extream, walk back into the boilerroom and log that Ken assumes responsibility of the watch go over to personel and pick up my check. Less extream Log that Ken assumes responsibility of the watch and go home. And third and the one I probabl would have done walk away from him and go into his office and stand in front of his desk and wait. When he cam into the office screaming about my walking away I would reach over and close the door and then ask him did you want to talk to me?

In another hospital no one had respect for the chief engineer. On day he was chewing out the on of the guys in the hall leading to the employee lunch room. This guy had had enough and he stopped him with Pete I wish you would not chew me out here in the hall infront of other employees. It makes me look bad because they wonder what is wrong with me that I would work for a chief engineer like you. He then turned and walked away.

I can’t abide regular verbal abuse from a boss. The only one who springs to mind drove me out of a job in less than three months – to be fair I was far from the first, she had been driving out new hires pretty relentlessly for years, but I’ve never just up and quit a job like that before, with nothing lined up. Not before or since.

Probably the way I was raised, but I just can’t let that shit go. Any criticism from a person in authority is going to be something I play over and over in my mind. I hate to fuck up. That said I understand that everyone fucks up sometimes and it’s not my boss’s fault for addressing that appropriately – it’s my weakness, being sensitive. However, a job where I was called names, told I was a liar, treated like an idiot, in generally just dressed down all the time – both deservedly and not, more often not – just becomes intolerable for me. Some people seem to think this keeps people on their toes – for me, it kept me in a state of high anxiety and dread most of the time. Even on weekends, I’d find myself counting down the hours I had until I had to go back. When at work, my boss didn’t work the same shift since I was overnight, so I’d sit there all night, anxious, waiting for her to come in and chew me out over something (or nothing). She generally did. If she didn’t address me at all I breathed a sigh of relief.

When I caught myself routinely wondering how serious of a car accident it would take to get me into the hospital for a few weeks but not kill me, I gave notice. Took a significantly less paying job in a high-volume call center, quite stressful, but in relative terms a break. While it was a pain, nobody ever spoke to me that way there and I never had that level of anxiety again. Never regretted it.

I’m sure it’s all personal issues and triggers, my dad was verbally and emotionally abusive to me all through childhood and being unable to escape that environment was a constant barrage on me for years and years. As an adult, I don’t care to be treated that way, and having a paycheck hanging over my head isn’t even enough. I’d rather do almost anything than put up with that, I just can’t stomach it. One of the reasons that I have such drive at work to do a good job and be self-directed is so that my boss never has the need to put me in my place, and that’s been a successful strategy with all the bosses out there since that one.

Don’t get me wrong, I get frustrated at work, I get stressed, bosses can be trying at times, but I have an absolutely zero tolerance policy for being belittled that way. If you think I’m a shitty employee, fucking fire me, don’t treat me like a wayward child who needs discipline.

I’ve honestly never had a boss just lose it as a one time thing. I’ve only ever seen this kind of thing as a pattern. I’ve worked with some bosses for years and years through thick and thin and they never screamed and yelled at me, or insulted me, or things like that, no matter what happened. I don’t see why any person would do that, I certainly never did that to anyone I managed. I got angry a few times, but it never got to the point of insulting or belittling. It was always professional – you are doing this, you cannot do this, this needs to improve kind of talks. Not “you’re a terrible fucking employee, how could you be so stupid?”. I fail to see how any reasonable boss could ever reach that point short of being in the middle of some personal crisis like the death of a spouse or child (and then they had really ought not to be in the office).

I’ve been dealing with a horrible boss lately, too, although it’s not my ‘boss’, but one of the docs that has patients on our nursing floor.

This doc has a long standing pattern of behavior that requires she be right and you be incompetent and she is never hesitant to throw in a personal insult or two. The technique she uses most is lots of little insults. Each on it’s own is not really worth doing anything about other than grumbling to your coworkers, but every now and then she does something that’s worthy of taking the complaint higher up. When that happens, she get a talking to and usually improves for a while before returning to her old patterns. Another technique she uses is to pick a target and ride them for a while. I’ve been in her sights lately (again). If you call her on her comments or behavior, she immediately runs to management to try to get you punished. She’s a petty little tyrant.

Recently, I’ve begun collecting anecdotes of her rude and insulting incidents with staff (and patients). When I collect enough, I will present them higher up to show a consistent pattern and ask management if there is any way to get her to stop or change for good. Some staff don’t want to give me written incident reports, even though I’ve offered to remove identifying information, because they feel the will be retaliated against. That is a very real possibility.

Maybe it will work out. Maybe not. Even my boss said the reason she gets away with this is because no one does anything about it.

Recently, I had a conversation with her that was completely polite and professional, which totally blew me away. That NEVER happens.

Later, I was told to ‘be careful’ because so-and-so may have told the doc I was keeping notes on her behavior. If that is true and that caused her to be polite and professional with me, then I will have won already.

It is a fine line-I once worked for a guy who was a hard core alcoholic. His rants and raving were clearly coming from what he drank for lunch.
I found out that he was a good friend of a senior manager-no sense fighting this guy-no way would you win.