Thread for Discussion of Political Ramifications of Trump Injury from Shooting at the Butler, PA Rally

Ford and Wallace.

I give up. I was thinking of former Presidents running to get back in the WH but honestly that doesn’t really matter to the point I was trying to make.

As data points related to this it at least didn’t get Wallace elected. Or Ford for that matter. I was offering this to refute the idea that this incident means the race is over and DJT will win.

Ford was actually President, filling the end of Nixon’s term, in 1975, when there were two assassination attempts against him in the span of 17 days.

And ran for president again.

There must be a terrible sadness among Trumpists that no one had a flag to staunch Trumps bleeding.

I think there is a window of opportunity, where the DEMs could turn up the heat on gun-control and weapons bans …

REPs would be in a tough place to justify keeping assault-rifles “free to purchase” … they would at least be in a inconfortable place to make this split of justifying assault guns for everyone, while their top honcho is still bleeding …

Had things been different by a few inches, it’s likely that both R and D candidates would be off the ticket. Without Trump, the argument for Biden to stay in the race would have been much weaker.

I don’t expect to see any gun-control legislation pass from this incident, either.

Biden would not have dropped from the ticket if Trump was killed. He wants to be president, that wouldn’t have changed.

I’m sure Trump will be happy to hear that he was shot with “America’s Gun”.

Sure, every politician has ego. But with the Republicans presumably putting in a much younger and more palatable candidate like Haley or Rubio, Biden’s weaknesses would have become even more glaring. The pressure within the Democratic ranks for him to resign would be greater yet.

Anyhow, I’m not sure if this thread was meant for entertaining what-if scenarios, so if it’s not, I’ll drop the hijack.

CNN’s website has a synopsis of assassinations and attempts on presidents and candidates.

Moderating:

Thanks for being mindful of it.

Let’s try to keep this thread within the realm of speculating forward from what actually happened and not about what would have happened had there been a different outcome.

It was early to impact the election; it was right on time to impact the Republican national convention, if someone was hoping for Trump to be replaced.

Thanks for the link. I was already aware of those incidents. My point would remain that only TR, RFK, Wallace and possibly Ford were running for office/campaigning. TR did well in his race but the attempts on RFK and Wallace ended their campaigns and Ford lost to Carter later in 1976.

As I already said, my post was responding to the notion multiple posters have put forward that this incident all but puts DJT back in the WH. I see exactly zero historical examples to show that is indeed the case.

The only way that could even possibly have happened would be if the sentencing had gone through and Trump was behind bars. And even in that case, they would probably still have run Trump.

On the failed assassination front, don’t forget the attempt on President-elect FDR in 1933:

I’d always heard that Chicago mayor Anton Cermak was the real target all along and the whole thing with FDR was misdirection.

That was my thought. If the election was two weeks out, this might be a game changer. The lazy Trumpers that this would have motivated to get off their asses and vote will revert to laziness by November.

You assume this is the last curveball this election season sees. With these two, and with what just transpired, I think these “interesting times” are far from over

Nope, I don’t assume that. Just specifically responding to the sentiment that this act by itself gives Trump the win. IMO it won’t have a lasting impact, though lots of things yet to happen likely will.