Three-L lllama? in today's Times Puzzle (Spoiler)

Most of our highly skilled Doper crossword solvers won’t deign to do the Monday puzzle in the New York Times because the puzzles are too easy. The puzzles get harder as the week progresses, with Saturday being the toughest. Sunday is just a bigger Thursday-level puzzle, which for me is usually great fun to solve.

Anyway, I still attack Monday puzzles and today I encountered a themed clue (and it’s answer) that has me wondering.

This clue is just as you see it in the headline, replete with the question mark which indicates the answer is a pun or some sort of word play. It is the third, and last, themed clue in the puzzle

The 15-letter answer is:

BLAZE IN BROOKLYN

Someone please explain.

The two preceding themed clues are:

One-L lama (15 letters)

BUDDHIST HOLY MAN

Two-L llama (15 letters)

ANDES PACK ANIMAL

And for Twickster’s benefit, the constructor is Peter A. Collins. For those of you who don’t know, Twickster was formerly a puzzle mag editor. Sadly she has since gone richer and respectabler and is now a gardening magazine editor.

A one-l Lama is a priest;
a two-l Llama is a best.
I don’t think it goes much higher…
Oh, yes, a three-l Lama is a fire.

(three-alarmer; fires are rated according to how many fire stations are called. If three stations are called, it’s a three-alarm fire)

All of this is clearly in answer to Ogden Nash’s little poem that ends:
“I will bet a silk pajama
That there is no three-l llama.”

Wow! Like BarnOwl, I wouldn’t’ve “gotten it” at all without Ethilrist’s explanation.

However, it is nice to see that the NY Times crossword isn’t above unbelievably bad groaners.

Actually, the ‘Blaze in Brooklyn’ was a 9 L llama.

It’s a “three-alarmer” - a fire that calls for fire equipment from three different firehouses - in a Brooklyn accent: Three ala’ma’.

The clues are from Ogden Nash’s “Three-l Lama”

Ah well, I see I wasted too much time looking up the poem itself. :slight_smile:

That poem was used by my English teacher in Catholic high-school as an example for literary analysis, in which he came to the conclusion that it expressed Nash’s lack of belief in the existence of Hell. The holy lama symbolized the higher realm of heaven, while the bestial llama symbolized the lower physical realm on Earth. Nash was betting everything he had (because when you are wearing silk pajamas you have nothing else on) that there was nothing below the physical realm, that is, Hell.

I’ve always suspected he was joking, but I’ve never been entirely sure. :slight_smile:

Thank you, Ethilrist!! Who wrote that witty ditty?

It’s already been noted: Ogden Nash.

If you are not familiar with Nash, here is a short biography.

Some of his other well-known poems:

Other poems can be found here:

http://www.westegg.com/nash/

A competent constructor, and not an asshole.

I never even vaguely inferred such a thought! In fact, I liked the puzzle and the Three-L lllama clue turned out to be most amusing.

Sorry – didn’t mean to imply you were impugning Peter – just giving you the inside scoop on the guy. (i.e., he’s not one of my favorite people ever, like Merl Reagle – but he’s not an asshole. And yes, I could name names on the assholes in the puzzle biz. But I won’t.)

More Nash:

Some primal termite knocked on wood
Tasted it, and found it good.
And that is why your cousin May
Fell through the parlor floor today.

I remember reading, in one of those Readers Digest snippets that they put at the end of their articles, that jokely that ends with a three-L lllama being a “helluva big fire.” I was a teenager, so that would have been approximately 30 years ago.

By the way, did you see the NY Times crossword a few weeks ago that had two cells with numerals instead of letters? I thought that was a good trick. Mainly because I had previously thought of the idea myself and wondered if it had ever been done.

It’s been done , and quite a while ago. Puzzle makers have done all sorts of tricks like that – using numbers instead of letters; using numbers as letters (especially “1/I” and “0/O”), using symbols like “@” for “at” and “&” for “and” (Like Alfred Bester did in his story “The Demolished Man”). The Bopston Globe’s Sunday crossword, for instance, usually has some clever twist in key words like this, and I know I’ve done one with numbers in the boxes many years ago.

It’s actually pretty common, usually on Thursdays. Sometimes it’s a symbol, a number, double letters, or a whole world that goes into a single cell. Thursdays can be fun.

Nash’s own take on the subject:

“The author’s attention has been called to a type of conflagration known as a three-alarmer. Pooh.”

(From memory, but also found online: here.)

Wouldn’t the “One L Lama’s” answer also be a reference to the Dali Lama? One L in Dali and all.

‘Lama’ (with one L) is a broad word meaning ‘religious teacher’ or thereabouts. ‘Dalai’ is part of the title of a specific lama.