Albert was in violation of an agreement between the five of them.
Did this violation occur during the cruise?
Did he send the “wrong” thing (ie. not the agreed-upon thing) in the package?
Was he not supposed to have been seen again?
Should Al have been missing a limb when Charlie saw him- did they think that the body part in the box was Al’s?
Was the hand identifcation? (ie: george’s wedding ring)
Grither asks: Just to clarify: Were the contents of the box part of any of the characters of this riddle?
NO
Is what parts were in the box important?
YES
SingleDad asks: If they had neither seen the contents of the box nor had Charlie seen Albert on the street, would they wanted to have killed him?
YES
If the had seen the contents of the box, but had not met Albert on the street, would they have wanted to kill him?
NO
If they had not seen the contents of the box, but still met Albert, would they have have wanted to kill him?
YES
Did C-E take into account in their motivation any events other than the activities during the cruise, the contents of the box and what Charlie saw when he met Albert?
NO
Did they go on the cruise to intentionally practice cannibalism?
NO!!
You mentioned that the victim of cannibalism was neither a native nor another passenger on the cruise.
YES
Was the victim a member of the crew?
NO
Was the victim one of the five men?
YES
Was the victim Albert?
NO
Did the victim die before they ate him (or parts of him)?
NO
Just to confirm, A-E are human beings, and they ate all or part of a human being, correct?
YES
aschrott asks: was the original act of cannibalism Albert’s idea?
YES
were the other four deceived by Albert into thinking cannibalism was necessary, when actually it was not?
NO
Redwing asks: Were the identities of the people eaten known to ALL of the diners at the time they were eaten?
YES
If not, did the contents of the box reveal them?
NO
Were the 5 people mentioned the only survivors initially of the shipwreck?
YES
Were there any other people shipwrecked with the 5?
Was Charlie the victim?
(this is more fun than the last 5 minutes of Picket Fences!)
was it agreed upon, at Albert’s suggestion, that, in order to survive the shipwreck, each man would sacrifice part(s) of himself for food?
Was Albert the only man not to have a body part eaten?
SingleDad says: Just to clarify, by victim(s), I believe we mean the person or people whos flesh was eaten.
WITH THAT IN MIND, Redwing asks: Were the identities of the victim(s) known to the 4 killers?
YES.
Flypsyde asks: Was the hand complete when Albert sent it?
YES
aschrott asks: Albert was in violation of an agreement between the five of them.
YES
Did this violation occur during the cruise?
NO
Did he send the “wrong” thing (ie. not the agreed-upon thing) in the package?
YES
Was he not supposed to have been seen again?
NO. THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT ABOUT HIS BEING SEEN OR NOT SEEN.
Mojo asks: Should Al have been missing a limb when Charlie saw him- did they think that the body part in the box was Al’s?
YES!!
SwimmingRiddles asks: Was the hand identifcation? (ie: george’s wedding ring)
NO.
Flypsyde asks: Were there any other people shipwrecked with the 5?
NO.
Now that we know about the shipwreck, is it still relevant that they were in the South Seas?
Was Albert complete in body when Charlie saw him?
Did Al back out of the promise by sending another hand to the other 4?
Did the men promise to eat 4 of their hands, with the 5th being amputated later?
SwimmingRiddles asks: Was Charlie the victim?
YES. (GIVEN SINGLEDAD’S DEFINITION THAT A VICTIM IS A PERSON WHOSE FLESH WAS EATEN).
aschrott asks: was it agreed upon, at Albert’s suggestion, that, in order to survive the shipwreck, each man would sacrifice part(s) of himself for food?
YES!
Was Albert the only man not to have a body part eaten?
YES!
The five men are survivors of a shipwreck. In order to survive, they decide to practice autophagy (eating of the self) and cannibalism. Charlie-Edward each cut off an arm to eat. Before Albert cuts off his own arm, they are rescued.
They agree that Albert must cut off his own hand or arm to follow the sacrifice of the other four. When they see the contents of the box, they believe that Albert has fulfilled his promise.
However, when Charlie sees Albert on the street, he sees that Albert has all his limbs, thus not only did he not fulfill the agreement, but probably murdered someone in order to obtain the hand or arm.
If Cecil Adams did not exist, we would be obliged to create Him.
Was the agreement to eat one body part from each person, as necessary, and when rescued, those who had not lost any body parts were to send a box containing their body parts to those who had been eaten?
so Albert chickened out and didn’t let the others eat part of him, even though he partook of the others. the only way the others would forgive him was if he cut his own hand off and sent it to them. They thought it was his hand in the package, and so the matter was closed. But, when Charlie saw him on the street he saw that Albert still had both hands?
Summary:
All men were on a cruise in the South Pacific where all were shipwrecked and agreed to eat each others hands (except for Al). Some time after returning, Albert sent a package containing a note and his supposed hand to Bob which was then forwarded to the other members until Edward received it and then threw it away- All of them (B-E) only looked at the contents of the box to verify that Al had held up his part of the agreement to cut off his hand after their return. Afterwards, Charlie sees Al on the street (unbeknownst to Al) and sees that he has both hands, leading him and the other members to agree that Al needs to be killed for violating their agreement. Also Coldfire has some issues involving felching and eating of genitalia.
Is this all correct?
Wow, is The Man going to be pissed that I spent the last 35 minutes trying to figure that out…
I don’t need you anymore.
~~Cher
OK, from the looks of it, the five guys were shipwrecked in the South Seas, and in order to survive they each contributed a hand, but I guess they were rescued before Alvin got to his sacrifice, so he agreed to send them his hand later for them to eat, out of fairness, presumably. When they discovered that he still had both his hands, they killed him.
SwimmingRiddles asks: Now that we know about the shipwreck, is it still relevant that they were in the South Seas?
NO
Flypsyde asks: Was Albert complete in body when Charlie saw him?
YES!!!
Did Al back out of the promise by sending another hand to the other 4?
YES!!!
Did the men promise to eat 4 of their hands, with the 5th being amputated later?
YES!!!
I think I’m to call this one a done deal, and pass the cigar to Flypsyde. Well done, everyone.
The five were shipwrecked on an island. In order to survive, Albert, a doctor, convinced the others that he could safely amputate their arms for food purposes. He pointed out that he needed to keep his own arms in order to perform further amputations, should they become necessary.
The others pointed out that he would benefit by avoiding starvation, and yet keep his own arms. This hardly seemed fair. So they struck a deal, with Albert agreeing to have his own arm amputated when they reached civilization. After their rescue, following through on the deal didn’t strike Albert as a good plan… so he obtained a cadaver’s arm and sent it to Bob, as proof he had lived up to his end of the deal.
It all would have worked if Charluie hadn’t happened to see him, with two arms, on the street. This infuriated the four one-armed survivors, and they killed Albert.
Nice work!
Thanks, Bricker, though I must admit the other’s posts were a ton of help.
Can we have another, please?
Did all donate a piece of themselves to the survival dinner, except Albert, with the requirement that Albert would mutilate himself, and send proof that he did–the piece of himself?
Did he send a piece of someone else, which was proven when Charlie saw Albert still whole, so to speak?