I’d say the tiger would whoop ass, but then, as already noted–an adult northern-range tiger would weigh about four times as much as a big wolf.
Cats are generally better predators because of the fact that they have recurve claws. They will generally try to crush teh neck of the victim, but if they can’t do that then they will attack by grabbing on with their mouth and front paws, and then kicking into the victims abdomen with their rear claws. It is instinctive, and even domestic housecats will do it when they fight. Dogs do not have this option, and so can’t do nearly as much damage as fast.
Leopards are much smaller than tigers, sized much closer to wolves–which would seem to be a more even match–except that leopards are said by big-game hunters to be the smartest cats by far.
Incidentally, mountain lions and wolves co-habitate in may places, but they are not considered to be real significant predators of each other. But even so–it is not unusual for a 150-lb mountain lion to kill a 750-lb elk. I’d bet that a single adult wolf would probably not be able to do that. Among land animals, mountain lions have the largest prey-to-predator ratio of all. We might suppose that wolves stick together at least partly to avoid being eaten by mountain lions.
…And anyway, didn’t the Romans settle all these questions way back when? Aren’t there any surviving records?
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No.
I kept wanting the tiger to win, but the damn bear kicked its ass.
If I remember correctly it broke the tiger’s spine with a single swipe of its paw.
Every damn time the tiger fought it got beaten.
Grrr.
In her book,“The Tribe Of Tiger”, Elizabeth Marshall Thomas tells about a lion that accidently found himself surrounded by elephants. The lion felt the only way out was to attack one of the elephants and, “…leaping at the nearest elephant,he clung to her head.She plucked him off,dashed him to the ground,and killed him…”
Not a tiger I know, but I do not see the outcome being any different.
Did you see the gorilla vs. leopard? No contest at all - gorilla with its jackhammer arm did the same as the bear - one swipe, and the leopard was done.
Anyone seen that video of the officer who tries to restrain a kitty cat, on a leash no less? :smack:
It’s an excellent demonstration of why felines are such formidible foes.
Got a link?
That sure sounds interesting…
Why on earth was a cop trying to restrain a kitty cat anyways?
Was it perhaps not so much a kitty cat as a big cat or a wild cat?
I’ve been trying to find it. It was going around a while back.
I think the “victim” was an animal control officer. Regular ol’ house cat, though.
It’s pretty funny if you can restrain your sympathy for the guy. I did, mostly.
Have you wolf fans ever seen a tiger up close? Within a few feet of you? I have, as a child in a zoo summer camp here, and let me tell you, that thing is a lot bigger than you think it is. A lot. Fido dosen’t stand a chance alone, and for me to vote for the wolf as a pack it would have to be a very big pack and very advantageous circumstances for the wolves. The tiger is a death and sex machine.
Man I thought Animal Face-Off was a horrible show. The tests they did had nothing at all to do with the animals. A mechanical elephant could smash a car? Well, an elephant could probably do that, but how does a metal thing on treads prove that?
Oh, and tiger hands down. I’m fairly certain a lion would kill a tiger. I remember reading eports of actual fights, and since lions and tigers go for the throats, the manes on the lions proved to be a deciding factor. I don’t recall reading anything about a bear versus a ger or lion, but I also read accounts of a ar versus a bull. I guess a bear can kill a bull rather easily due to higher bone density and powerful strikes to the bull’s head. Sorry, no cites.
I’m not clear on how he became lame, but I seem to remember he was born lame. And even lame, he managed to grow to full size, hunting adequately to support his large mass.
Yes, but this ‘bull’ could have been a water buffalo or other very large wild antelope. What is a male Sambur called, after all?
Well, I always pictured a “fat bull” as cattle, but of course, the text is less than conclusive. But even if it’s not, that still wouldn’t make killing cattle against the law of the jungle, right? Or am I forgetting that part?
As far as I know, it is against the law of the jungle to kill man. But it would be foolish to kill man’s animals when there is a jungle full of wild prey (and the jungle animals were disdainful, IIRC, of Sher Khan for killing domestic animals). After all, man is protective of his animals, and while a maneater would bring out the white men on elephants, with beaters and torches…one that’s killing domestic animals might still bring out the guns. It would be a dangerous thing.
Well the metal models and such of the animals is the only way to effectively show the power of a wild animal. If we have measured that say an average grizzly bear will deliver 900 psi of force (no clue how hard a bear actually hits) in one blow then if we build a mechanical claw with similar shaped claws that delivers the same force then we’d be able to sort of proximate that to show what a bear could do.
Also on bull versus bear, I think it would all depend on where the fight happened and how.
If the bear enraged the bull and the bull charged at the bear in the open field, and the bear was unable to effectively dodge, then one full force blow would probably be the end for the bear because it would be horribly gored and down on the ground. The bull would then trample him incessantly til it was dead (bulls are well muscled animals, and even a medium sized bull is larger than the largest grizzlies ever recorded.)
If the bear was going after a bull as a predator, or in the woods, no challenge, bears as large as they are probably wouldn’t have the hardest time in the world gaining an advantageous angle of attack vs. a bull.
In real live situations I’d say a bear would win 99% of the time if we’re talking about a brown bear (grizzly, kodiak), or polar bears, for black bear the bull may have a better percentage (still probably 70%+ in the bears favor.)
The aurochs would probably stand a better chance if they were still around.
Well, it’s not like they’re at all the same animal, but a wolf is about the same size and armament as some dogs. A tiger is not the same size as Fluffy. (Your Fluffy may vary.)
