and having played a couple of minis and the texas open on occasion i can tell you this from my personal perspective. you could have chain sawed off a leg and arm and i would have been out there one arming and hopping before i would have withdrawn.
and just so we are clear. this is kind of regarded as the “fifth” major.
so it’s not like he decided to quit in the arby’s duluth open. of course, those kind of tournaments are beneath him since he is the second coming of tifdwarf.
I figure he related his neck injury back to the car accident just to make clear that his comeback from adversity is judged as impressive as Hogan’s!
I have no sympathy for Tiger, and am happy any time he is not playing (unless he is playing and doing poorly!) But I have to say he really is piling up quite a combination of “events” which will interfere with his ability to resume his past form. In the past, he was able to come back from adversity and see some sort of favorable progress pretty quickly. This time, tho, his progress has been in the wrong direction. From top 5 in the Masters, to a missed cut, to a WD.
One image that keeps coming back to me was his 4-putt. I can’t think of anything less characteristic of Tiger. If nothing else, he always had supreme confidence in himself, and would grind as much as needed to get the score. With that 4-putt, and some of his comments after that MC, he seemed to almost have been mailing it in. Which was previously unheard of for Tiger. Sure, his WD this week might be understandable. But when combined with his performance in the previous 2 events, I can’t say it bodes well for him or his fans.
Sure, he’ll come back. But I fear it will take longer than I had previously imagined, and may not get him to the heights he previously enjoyed.
I still have no clue what you’re talking about, other than the point that the statement took place during a tournament. The parts you quoted have about as much relation to disrespecting the game as me eating a ham sandwich and someone taking it as an insult to baseball.
and i don’t want anyone to think i have anything against tiger personally. he has shown that he is a brilliant talent. i just think that his recent behavior is not good for himself or the game.
total aside and i show my age. i was always a weiskopf person. i think he may have been one of the first 6+ footers (as i am) to be consistently competitive. i mean most of the other folks were in the 5’7" - 5’10" range. i was always concerned that i would step on one of the rodents and get an ankle injury.
it’s funny that you mention him. because i got to play with him and bill rogers one weekend after rogers won the open. he was a tall son of a gun as well. but he carried himself smaller if you know what i mean. weiskopf was a big fucker.
which he hasn’t. so yeh, he’s a liar as well, now that you mention it.
that doesn’t mix real good on a golf course. if i am playing with a liar i kind of am going to keep the cash bets on the minimal side. so you are right he disses the sport on more than one angle.
Just how fragile do you think golf’s feelings are?
Golf: “Oh, my, oh, me, how could Joe Blow let me down for not finishing his round in the pouring rain? Why oh why did he quit after 12?”
Golf: “Heavens to Betsy, did I ever dodge a bullet! Roger Hammerball broke his arm on 17th, but thank the Lord that he finished 18! Why, I would just FAINT if he hadn’t holed out!”
Golf: “Oh noes, Tiger woods said he’d be more respectful of the game, and then four months later he withdrew from a tournament with a neck injury! I don’t think I will ever be the same!”
Seriously, your version of golf reminds me more of the catty bitches on one of those “Real Housewives of New York” shows in which everyone is crying in their wadded up frilly panties about how someone looked at someone strangely while eating a canape.
No, I have no clue what the hell you’re talking about. Vijay Singh is 6’ 3", Ian Baker Finch is 6’ 4", Nick Faldo is 6’ 3", and Peter Jacobsen is 6’ 2". You have some odd ideas about golf. Apparently you’re very talented, but still some very strange ideas.
Am I supposed to care? He’s not playing against you for cash. He didn’t say what you described, and it’s ridiculous that you are lambasting the guy for quitting during a tournament for the second time in (I think) 12 years. If anybody in sports ever earned the right to avoid being called a quitter, you’d think it would be the guy who won the U.S. Open a few years ago while playing on a broken leg with a torn Achilles. But no, he withdraws from a tournament with a sore neck and he’s a quitter. Whatever.
first of all when i started playing a couple of decades ago it was rare to see 6’+ on the tour. i think now with the move to more individualized equipment that some of the taller fellers are being successful. matter of fact with their natural swing arc it really gives them an advantage. of course that just means with my customized pings i can hit it 75 yards into the toolies as opposed to 25.
and marley you make my point. his injury at the u.s was, it seems, much more severe than what he suffered this week. but he was in contention and went on to win. that was a great performance. i think a lot of times you can see what is really deep inside someone when the stuff goes south. at the open it was rocking and he rode along for a great victory. now he gets up against it and cashes it in. that’s the definition of a quitter in my book. things aren’t going my way so i’ll take my football and go home. that’s weak sauce. can’t have it both ways. either man up all the time or just when you feel like it. apparantly he is the latter. that’s not how i live my life and it is certainly not someone i would admire.
oh, and when i said several decades ago, i am talking about the 60s and 70s.
palmer, nicklaus, watson, trevino. they were all kind of shorter folks. i mean boros topped out at 6’ but i think that was with his cleats on standing in the parking lot before the asphalt would get all hot and squishy and you sunk into it.
and crap crenshaw and kite wouldn’t be jumping center in any basketball league.
but you miss the point of the sport. it is an individual competition that is predicated on playing a certain number of holes. because i also used to pitch in junior high school this a silly statement. i knew going out, when pitching, that i was going to go until they started hitting me, the game was over or my arm fell off. maybe an inning or maybe ten. shoot who knows.
when i teed it up i knew i was going until the 18th hole. 70, 80, 90 strokes. 4, 5 or 6 hours. it didn’t matter i had to finish. i didn’t get to say i’m tired send in a back up. i didn’t get to say i have a blister or pulled something so get the doc like you could in basketball or football. it was you and your caddy against the entire world. lot’s of folks couldn’t take that kind of stuff and would fall away. i remember playing in a tourney in north houston. day starts off muggy and hot 70ish. blue northern rips through around the 11th. lots of rain and temps in the 40s. i didn’t have a rain suit and was in shorts (college). soaking wet and freezing. i had to send my caddy back to the clubhouse to get a shit load of towels. just kind of started wrapping them around me to keep from getting hypothermia. i was like 4 over for the round and 6+ for the tourney. i knew i wasn’t going to win, i was freaking miserable, but i also knew that i was going to finish the round up.
freaking waterwood, i think, in huntsville, tx.
matter of fact approaching the 18th i told my caddy to go back to the car and get one rolled because i was going to need it. he took off like a firecracker went off in his ass. i just freaking putted out.
Your book defines him as a quitter and as a non-quitter. Does that trouble you?
I really don’t care if you admire it. Although if we’re on the subject, he’s done less admirable things than quit a round of golf early. What we were talking about is this “Tiger’s such a quitter” thing. It’s not the first time he’s left a tournament early, as I pointed out a bunch of times already. Was he a quitter those other times and a non-quitter every time he finished, or is it possible that this was one of a handful of times where he felt he couldn’t finish?
fuck no, i wouldn’t suck that poison out. that’s why you have caddies.
as a total aside. the best caddy i ever had was the best man in my wedding. we’re playing in west egypt texas at this one event. i was seriously trashed but pretty close to the top but i am shaking bad. next thing i know he is in the men’s room. what da heck, we gotta go. he was mixing up a huge batch of gritas on the rocks. helped steady my nerves. i think i could have won the sucker but we took a couple of hits of thai stick on the back nine and then i was lalaed.