I forget - was there corroboration of the nature/severity of this injury from anyone outside of Tiger’s camp?
Just saying - the guy seems to have at least a little shortcoming in the credibility department. I’m not sure I’d believe him if he told me the sun had come up in the east if I didn’t have the opportunity to see it with my own eyes. Not that it matters too much.
and this is an interesting observation that i have probably discounted.
i don’t know a single golfer that didn’t wake up with a couple of twinges going on. and most of the times we just play through them. but you are definitely correct that if one part of your body is hurting you have a tendency to overcompensate elsewhere. and that creates all sorts of potential other bad or worse outcomes.
i just keep coming back to the fact that if he was as hurt as he says (he wd’ed on 6) that he might have felt that at breakfast or when he was at the driving range warming up. and although it is pure conjecture on my part i think that if he would have been 4 under and charging up the leader board he might very well have decided to continue.
I could stand to hear a bit less about Tiger Woods myself, but it’s just silly to criticize him for rationally concluding that a large reward is worth pushing through more pain and risk than a small reward.
Just because you subscribe to a code of golf in which it is dishonorable not to finish a round you started doesn’t mean that every golfer believes the same thing. And it certainly doesn’t make someone dishonest because they may play the game differently than you, so long as they follow the rules.
Please explain to me once more why withdrawing with an injury from a bad round is a sign of a dishonor, but getting sloppy drunk and stoned on the course is supposed to be acceptable?
Those two things are unrelated, as far as I can tell.
You haven’t made a good case for the idea that quitting because of a physical ailment in any way against the spirit of golf. In fact, most people familiar with the game seem to disagree with you.
The latest is his injury requires rest and massage to mend. I thought he was out for months resting. Then he played a couple tournies and that was too much for him. he is pretty frail nowadays.
and maybe i will never get you folks to understand what i am saying.
there have been plenty of times that upon waking up, or going to the range to loosen up and then hit breakfast or lunch and then head back to the range to get your pre round stuff in order that the body says, nope ain’t gonna work today. and it happens at any point along the way.
sure i’ve w’d on those occasions. but i never ever went through all that stuff and then quit on 6 in the middle of a round where you are sucking.
i remember playing in a calcutta back in west texas where i had fractured the index finger on my right hand playing softball two days before. i went to the range and tried accomodating the injury. i found that with a baseball grip and some prescription vicodin that i felt i could make a go. the first time i thinned an iron i thought my arm was going to fall off. but i sure was going to finish the round. i got the enjoyable experience of doing that for five rounds.
finished third. cashed a couple thou. and when it came to the awards ceremony i wasn’t shaking any hands because the right one looked like mickey mouse.
i just can’t see how folks don’t differentiate between a broken leg while leading a major and fighting through it as opposed to a sore neck (which apparantly doesn’t require surgery like the leg did) and going south on a leaderboard and quitting doesn’t make you go, hmmmmmm.
in a golf swing you torque your legs, a lot. i can’t even begin to imagine the grit it would have taken to play throught that. i mean that’s a tough hombre. knowing that every shot is going to feel like crud and hurt like a bitch.
a bad neck. hell, that would just help me stay down on the ball so i’m not looking up and completing the swing.
I can’t say one way or the other. On the subject of credibility and TW…not that I care about his personal life…I think it is slightly unfair to assume that a person who engages in marital infidelity is dishonest in all facets of life. The sheer scale of his cheating aside, cheating itself is not uncommon among married people, and presumably most if not all cheaters lie about it to their spouses and others in their circles. It doesn’t necessarily mean they are universally dishonest or untrustworthy.
Of course not. But neither is it entirely unheard of for people to fake or exaggerate illness when calling in sick to work.
Are you telling me that if you knew someone was blatantly dishonest WRT one relatively significant aspect of their life, that you would not even consider that in deciding how trustworthy you would consider them in other areas? IME&O, if someone has been reliably proven to habitually/consistently lie and/or cheat in one somewhat significant area, while that is no guarantee that they will lie/cheat in other areas, I think it is relevant to their overall credibility.