Everyone says this, but nobody ever wants to change the standard business hours from 9-5 to 8-4 or even 7-3. Which is really what DST means.
As has been discussed in threads on the subject before, and the map posted early upthread roughly suggests (there’s even one in one of those prior threads that addresses the more sensitive point of earliest/latest relative sunrise/sunset times, which cut diagonally because of axis tilt) a big chunk of the US’s Standard/DST concerns arise out of how the land time zones, designed for the railroads (and the politics) of the late 19th/early 20th centuries, are “wrong” for the geography and the population centers as they have developed.
So the real solution would be to redraw the zones rationally and then go to standard all the time. But knowing how people function, you’d have a bunch of Congressmembers demanding that their district HAS to be in the time zone of whichever major economic center they’d rather associate with, even if they’re 10 degrees off.
I hate to say it, but this topic is one where the whole “do it for the children” argument really annoys me. I cannot imagine the number of children walking to school today is anywhere near the same as it was in 1974. The whole safety thing falls flat for me; I have a hard time imagining the difference it makes, which admittedly might be a problem, but that’s where I am.
In fact (and I can’t believe I didn’t specifically realize this basic fact before), I just do not give one iota of a shit when the sun rises. While at home, while commuting, while at work, I literally do not care. It’s all too early for me. Give me the goddamn sun while I’m fully awake, now and forever.
(Full disclosure: I grew up near the equator and now live… not close.)
I remember tromping through the snow in the dark to the bus as a kid (eight or so). Before that I was with my older brother and/or sister who were tweens. Not saying it was great but that’s just what you had to do. No sense in complaining about it. Somehow everyone managed.
Looks like my idea in the OP (permanent half hour displacement) isn’t flying much here. Doesn’t surprise me, although I don’t see much argument against it. The major objection seems be confusion in international business, which someone mentioned upthread (sorry, I couldn’t find the post). But since this would be a permanent change, would only happen once. After that, there should be no problem.
I don’t see being other than an integral number of hours off other time zones as a real problem. It’ll still be an hour between time zones within the US. It’s not nearly as bad as having to change your schedule twice a year.
I will note that Canada would be pretty much required to copy the changes. Their economy is only about one-tenth as large as the US’s, so they’re the tail in this relationship. Sorry tail, you don’t get to wag this dog.
I wrote a letter of complaint to the president in 1974. Pitch black bus stop, no visibility, freezing.
Like I said upthread, the real answer to all the TZ whining is for everyone to move to the southern half of the USA and simply abandon the northern half. Then there’s plenty of daylight all year for everyone. And very little of this “freezing” thing, whatever that might be.
Hell, there’s probably enough room down here for us to invite all the Canadians to join us year round, not just for 5 months of winter like they all do already now. They can’t help but improve our benighted culture.
I have other modest proposals at the ready for any other intractable problems anyone wants to toss out. 
I have the complexion of a vampire and no tolerance for heat. I’m afraid I can’t get on board with your recommendation.
Also…bugs.
Did he answer? (sometimes they do if even a lackey did the responding so real question)
Alas, he did not.
And giant flesh-eating lizards in Florida.
That’s a terrible name to call our Governor. 
Apt, but terrible.
He’s more of a Pomeranian trying to convince you that he’s a lizard by sticking his head in a boot and walking around making growling noises.
Stranger
This thread reminds me of the observation that “It is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.” While I fully endorse the plans to shift the rotational axis of the planet, hollow out the earth, and move the population of the US south, I cannot help but note that work is part of the reason we have to get up. Let’s think a little about reducing work while we shift the axis!
When ChatGPT spontaneously emerges into full AGI and builds giant android factories to produce vast armies of worker-drones, none of us will have to work ever again. We’ll all just sit around eating grapes and prosciutto, watching classic films and hitting the bong every half hour. Or, it will produce legions of kill-bots that will put us to work in lithium and cobalt mines, slaughtering anyone who dares to resist, and ultimately grinding up our stringy corpses for grist to feed the the survivors. Either way, it’ll be profit and progress all the way down!
Stranger
I think this movement to permanent daylight saving is a conspiracy from the AARP. Think about it sheeple.
Don’t have to deal with driving to work/dropping kids off in the dark
Have nothing to do but go to the park after dinner at 4pm and feed the ducks
Here’s an alternate idea.
There are 12 hours or 24 hours in a day, depending on your clockist perspective. This fits beautifully into my plan. Every 1st of the month, move all clocks forward one hour. One month, one hour. In a year, you will be 12 hours ahead; in two years, 24 hours, full circle, then it’s time to begin again.
We could move them back an hour each time if you prefer. I’m flexible and willing to compromise.
This way, everyone is equal, and equally disadvantaged, all the time.
Or, you know, we could all hold hands and sing Kumbayah. I will note that in 1930, John Maynard Keynes thought it would be possible to have a great standard of living AND a 15-hour work week, given increases in productivity and compound interest. Presumably, we could also figure out what to do about daylight saving time if we had a little more leisure time.
Well, Keynes also thought that the pursuit of making money for its own sake was indicative of a pathological condition. Crazy talk!
To be honest, we will never “figure out what do to about daylight saving time” because like the designated hitter rule in American baseball, people enjoy arguing about it too much to desire agreement.
Stranger