I disagree. They tilt further left than the Tower of Pisa and have done so for many years.
Obligatory photo of tower of Pisa, showing direction of tilt:
I love this message board.
Of course, elites are even more likely to be drawn to business and Republican politics, as you know.
Which definition is meaningless and dishonest bullshit and to the shame and discredit of conservatives.
Elites is a magic word. Nobody is an elite , but, of course, so many other (bad) people are.
Kind of like the word racist.
If only . . . James K. Poult is satire.
I would be the last to disclaim a smug sense of moral and intellectual liberal superiority, but such is neither baseless nor elitist. Ya want baseless elitism, read Russel Kirk.
Yeah, I kinda thought you were insane. Glad to hear that’s not the case.
I can’t remember who said it:
“Anti-elitism is the phoniest kind of elitism, in that it pretends not to be elitist.”
This is precisely what Starving Artist doesn’t get. He doesn’t like liberals, so he constructs an image that jibes with his prejudices, regardless of how congruent they are with reality. He has decided that “elitist” is a bad word, and that’s what liberals are, ignoring concrete counterexamples offered by tomndebb and others. He refuses to see that the conservative base, which is white, married Christians who skew older, is inherently elitist and exclusionary, just in a different way. Everyone thinks they’re better than their opposition. It’s the human condition, not a liberal-only quality.
Thanks for the link to the photo, Squink! For a moment there I thought I had misremembered the Saturday I spent in Italy.
For your consideration:
Marriage should be between one man and one woman.
Women must not participate in on-the-ground combat.
Beating a child is an acceptable form of discipline.
Single welfare mothers are a problem; single welfare fathers are not a problem.
These are all in dispute now, but changing people’s thinking on them is difficult.
Most bizarre image of the week award to Rubystreak for this:
As an active conservative for the past 30 years, I didn’t get the memo that OKs child-beating & single welfare dads (especially ones that run around impregnating various women).
Re “child-beating”, you’re not including all spanking are you? :dubious::dubious::dubious:
I thought we were trying to encourage spending right now. People hoarding money is part of the economic slowdown.
In a way, it is- on the Right and the Left. After all, people who do perpetrate evil do feel they have a superiority over those they do it against, and people who fight evil also feel superior against evil-doers.
People and ideas on the Right and the Left are flawed. People and ideas on the Right and the Left are also valuable. I lean Right on most things, the Dope leans Left on most things. Each sides feels morally & intellectually superior to the other side, AND there are instances where each side is very correct and instances where each side is painfully wrong. In this past election season, I have seen respected liberals on the SDMB cut loose with vomitous hateful bile that matches & surpasses anything I’ve heard on Right-wing talk radio. And because I hate to see that sort of thing from my own side, I don’t even go to Freepers unless I have to. (I did find some great info on the FBI’s secret dismissal of the John Birch Society there.) God knows, for intellectual and moral arrogance on the liberal end of the scale, you can’t beat the SDMB. (“But it’s because we ARE smarter and better than those conservatives!” a lot of you are thinking. Thank you.) And sometimes I’ll toss it right back- because sometimes I can be an asshole, also.
And sometimes, it is because I’m smarter and better than some of you.
And all the Dopers said: “Cite?”
Yeah! Darn that Rubystreak anyway, employing such harsh and offensive imagery! Starkers is right, our standards are woefully corrupt when such brutal metaphors as this are permitted…nay, encouraged!.. by the nattering nabobs of negativism.
I blame the hippies.
I’ve got no problem with this statement. My issue is with Starving Artist’s odd claim that only, (or, perhaps, primarily), the Left engages in this sort of behavior.
There are clearly some folks on the left who speak as though those on the Right are idiots. Denying that, as some posters seem to do, is silly. On the other hand, there are a lot of folks on the Right who do the same toward the Left. As Rubystreak pointed out in her last post, a reverse snob is still a snob, just in a different direction.
After being away from the board for a while, all I can say is: plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.
Oh noes! Hentor the Barbarian has lost the power of speech (with the exception of a famous French apothegm in the original French)!
I hope your aphasia goes away tout de suite with just a few more days of exposure to the board.
Sorry, sweetheart. elucidator said that. Give him the award.
Leave it to a godless hippy lefty to use FRENCH.
-Joe