Oh, good, it wasn’t the Skittles. What a relief! It was his ambulatory velocity. Of course, yes, that makes all the sense in the world. Sure glad to hear it wasn’t because he was black, or anything like that.
Oh, dear. You’re not kidding, are you?
And you were doing so well, too, for a moment.
I can never tell with you. Does that mean you disagree with my factual statement or you just don’t like the truth?
Do you have any reason whatsoever to suspect that it was because he was black?
Listening to the doctored NBC version of the 911 call, it sure seemed like the motivation for the call was that Martin was black.
Since we now know he brought that up only in response to a direct question from the dispatcher about what race the man was that Zimmerman was calling about, I’m not sure what you’d rely upon to conclude that race was a factor.
And I doubt you’ll be able to make a direct, succinct, clear statement about that either. Undoubtedly you’ll have some faux-sarcastic comment to attempt to hide this lack, though.
Try, elucidator.
Just fill in the blank. A simple, declarative sentence: “I believe Zimmerman was suspicious of Martin based on Martin’s race because __________________________.”
Yes, but the person being asked that question is also perfectly within their legal right to say “go get fucked asshole, I don’t have to tell you shit”? Is that correct? Just making sure I understand the issue. Would that type of response qualify as being an aggressor in a fight that followed, or would it still be required to show who got physical first?
I don’t chime in much, but have read this thread. I appreciate Bricker’s legal contributions to it.
I’ll play: The other people he called about in the past were all black.
Do you know this? If it’s true, it strongly suggests profiling, but I’ve not heard it before now.
I’m not sure what your point is here. Are you disputing that Zimmerman’s intention in attempting to follow Martin was to be able to report him to the police?
If so, what do you think Zimmerman’s intentions were and why do you think so?
Probably you would have to ask Zimmerman that question.
Demonstrably wrong. He also called about whites and hispanics.
I have no detailed information on this, but Time said:
You might be right, but until I see a reputable cite, I’ll take Time’s word over yours.
Will teach you to believe Time without verifying:
Lots of calls in which race of people is not mentioned. And this one:
- June 24, 2007 – 12:48 a.m.
Type: TEL
Subject: Suspicious activity
Report: “By the pool”, two Hispanic males and one white male with “slim jim”
So Zimmerman thought that Martin was looking to burglarize a house at 7PM on a Sunday? To borrow an expression: lol.
This article has quite a bit of detail about Zimmerman’s calls to the police, and suggests that while the most recent 6 calls were about black males, the previous 40 were more varied.
Wow, one item, from five years ago.
The Time article only makes claim to the “months before”. I’ll stipulate that five years earlier he narced on some Hispanics and a blanko nino.
Tell me Terr, are you stupid, or just a suppurating asshole?
Well, it’s after he started watching The Wire.
Lol, that’s like asking Count Dracula to go for an afternoon hike in the Mojave Desert.
BZZZT. Not a true claim. Here’s a link to the subject matter of the 44 prior police assistance calls from Zimmerman. Only five identify black persons as the subjects or involved ini any way in the calls.
But thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts. What do we have for our contestants, Johnny?
8/12/2004 suspicious male in pickup truck
8/12/2004 repeats cal 1
8/20/2004 open garage door
10/20/2004 drunk pedestrian
3/17/2005 pot hole
4/27/2005 open garage door
9/21/2005 stray dog
9/23/2005 suspicious person at sister's door
11/4/2006 speeding car
6/24/2007 two Hispanic makes, one white male witrh slim jim
10/14/2007 vandalism
11/25/2007 while male
11/25/2007 Ex-roommate disturbance
1/5/2009 Alarm going off
3/12/2009 out of town patrol request
5/4/2009 suspicious car
6/10/2009 Alarm going off
6/16/2009 Pool area distrubance
8/21/2009 Landlord tenant conflict
8/26/2009 speeding car
9/7/2009 pot hole
9/22/2009 reckless speed bike
10/23/2009 aggressive animals
11/21/2009 unclear
11/2/2009 reckless driver
1/1/2010 reckless driver
1/12/2010 Open garage door
2/27/2010 House with lots of suspicious activity
4/27/2010 While car blocking road
6/12/2010 Disturbing party
6/26/2010 Loud party, guests blocking street
10/2/2010 female disturbing peace
11/8/2010 trash in roadway
11/26/2010 Alarm going off
3/18/2011 Pit bull
4/22/2011 Black male juvenile
5/27/2011 Alarm going off
8/3/2011 Black male
8/6/2011 Black males
9/23/2011 Open garage door
10/1/2011 Black males
12/10/2011 Worker thought he was going to getr paid
1/29/2012 Children running and playing in the street
2/2/2012 Black male
You know, you could just say, “OK, my mistake.”
I’ve done it plenty of times. It doesn’t hurt much.