Can you believe it’s been several years since I’ve seen a single DS9 episode? WTF is wrong with me?
Out come the DVDs. Tonight it’s Emissary and maybe a couple more.
I love this show.
I tried to watch Emissary and it was boring. Never seen anything else.
They started playing them at 3pm on Space Canada syndication. No more waiting until the 2am showing for me! Hands down my favorite ST series, though Enterprise was a close second that died before its time…
All series premiers are boring. There’s 170-some-odd more episodes to be full of awesomeness. (Plus a few stinkers, like Babel).
The first season starts slow, but gets good pretty fast - uneven acting, but it’s an interesting metaphor for the breakup of Empire and decolonization. And then the Dominion War starts, and the show gets all 'splodey.
Please, Evil (and kinda gay) Nana Visitor in black leather!
I just finished rewatching it for the first time since it originally aired. It’s aged pretty well, considerably better then TNG. Definately the best Trek, and amongst the best Sci-fi series I’ve seen.
Add me to the list of those who count DS9 as the best Trek ever. Dark and haunting…TRM
I’m in the middle of Season 2. I always changed the channel back when TNG was still airing new episodes and I would realize I was watching Star Trek, but it was DS9. I should have tried watching a whole episode. I love TNG, but it may become my favorite series.
I have a love /hate relationship with DS9. When it was on it’s game it was the best Trek but when they started with that Sisko believes in the prophets and all this was pre ordained magic stuff I was pissed off.
One thing DS9 had was the best battles ever with massive fleet engagements, I wated my entire life to finally see Starfleet in action!
I loved DS9 from the beginning; the cast, the space battles, and yes, even the prophets/temple arc. In my opinion, (your mileage may vary,) it doesn’t have to be magic/mysticism, you can generally interpret all of that as just ‘freaky alien/time travel stuff.’
“You exist here.”
“I… I never left this room.”
“None of your prior experience was able to prepare you for this consequence.”
“And I never learned how to live without her. I exist here.”
“It is NOT linear.”
“No.” (Hollow chuckle.) “It’s not linear.”
(paraphrased because I can’t find the exact dialog.)
DS9 took a while to find its feet. And the premiere stunk. If one more etherial being of pure light said “Time? What is this?” I was going to reach through the TV and slap it. If DS9 wasn’t a Star Trek franchise it probably would have been canceled. That would have been a shame - DS9 was great in the later seasons. Like the Dominion war story arc - the Federation was losing most of the time, and it showed. It was very dark. Yet there were episodes of humor - the one where Sisko’s old rival from the academy challenges him to a baseball game is a fun break from The War.
Avery Brooks was a great captain. He was tough and authoritative, without being authoritarian. But he was tender and loving with his family. You know - human.
Great characters in DS9 also. I like [post=10741558]this little gem from Garak[/post].
Likewise the one where Jake and Nog conspire to acquire a rare baseball card as a gift for Sisko. That one is one of my favorites.
One of my favorites was where Tony Todd played a grown-up Jake, and Sisko was ping-ponging back and forth through time. Also, the ones where Sisko is “Benny” back in the 1950s, writing pulp science fiction stories! DS9 had the ability to step out of its normal mold, but not feel like it was breaking any of its own groundrules.
Yea, if anything, I’d say the series pretty clearly favors an athiestic view. The Prophets are shown to be way too limited in their abilites, or even their understanding of the world outside the wormhole to be actual Gods. And of course, the Prophets are only one of two alien species worshiped as Gods in the series, and the other one (the founders) are even more clearly not actual deities.
Plus, it has my favorite anti-religious quote:
Weyoun: Pah-wraiths and Prophets. All this talk of gods strikes me as nothing more than superstitious nonsense.
Damar: You believe that the Founders are gods, don’t you?
Weyoun: That’s different.
Damar: In what way?
Weyoun: The Founders are gods.
Huh. Then why did Bel’anna so readily believe she was in Klingon hell in that one Voyager episode?
Then again, when you’re actually THERE, I suppose it’s easy to forget your history, especially when you haven’t grown up in that side of your culture.
Just because the Klingon gods are dead, doesn’t mean their afterlife went away. (There are some Worf stories involving Sto-vo-kor, too.)
That’s “The Visitor.” Which I happened to watch today. It seemed fitting for Father’s Day.