Agreed. As I said here, the only thing I ever agreed with the late Lewis Grizzard about is that sugar in cornbread is an abomination in the sight of the Lord.
Note: the slight incoherence of the exchance between Ike and myself about cornbread in the linked thread above appears to be a result of some shift in the space-time continuum that occurred during one of the board upgrades.
Sugar in cornbread? I’ve seen it done, but it is frowned upon.
To all y’all Texas folks: get out of this conversation. We were talking about The South, which is part of the United States of America. The Republic of Texas is a region all its own. Not that this is a bad thing…just don’t claim independence and then turn around and express allegiance to The South, which is a section of a real country.
Yes, nosotros is first person plural – “we.” Vosotros is second person plural – “y’all.” Ellos is third person plural. It serves as “they,” but it is also the formal plural “you” form when you throw in “ustedes” to clarify it.
Grits should never be contaminated with sugar and/or milk. Grits are not real grits unless they are stone-ground grits.
Instant grits are okay in an emergency but they are not real grits.
I’ll go along with the “sumbitch,” but at least here in VA we haven’t entirely dropped the “d” sound from “Did you eat.” Here its “djeet.” Not much of a “d,” but its lurking around in there somewhere. The question is usually asked “Djeetjet?” “Did you eat yet?” To which the only acceptable answer is “Naw, djew?”
Y’all: second person plural, everywhere I’ve been in the South (primarily Columbia and Florence SC, Bristol VA/TN, central FL), and in south central KS, where I picked up the phrase from my cousins.
Grits: butter, salt, and pepper here, thanks; other additives acceptable except milk and sugar.
Cornbread:sugar??? WTF?!?
My experience with tea has been as follows:
In the deep South: there’s tea (meaning sweet iced tea, as God intended) and unsweet. You might be able to find some hot tea at some places.
In the not-so-deep South: there’s tea (meaning unsweetened iced tea), sweet tea, and hot tea.
In the North: there’s tea (meaning hot tea) and iced tea (meaning unsweet). You can’t get sweet tea, because they’re under the misconception that you can sweeten a cold glass of tea, filled with ice cubes, by stirring in sugar.
I’m sure that he’d say so. For all I know, he may be someone you already know – he mentioned living in Arkansas in another thread (the one I linked in a previous post in this thread), and his profile says he’s in Little Rock. That’s about all I know. Except that his head’s in the right place about cornbread.
Well, they must have got those Cajun last names somewhere. FTR, the Louisianans I heard use the word incorectly were from Lafayette and the surrounding areas and were about as Cajun as you can get. The Mississippians were from Jackson. And I have had this happen many times when I was the only other person in the room.
Arkansas? I thought you were here in Atlanta, rackensack.
Now, regarding the Texas thing, I thought you got sweetened iced tea (or “sweettea” as we call it here) in East Texas, which is culturally more similar to the South (but still not the South, I can’t stress this enough), but from about Houston and Dallas westward it’s all unsweetened.
Nope. It was first bottled in 1894, in Vickburg, MS. Coke was actually invented earlier.
Ironic, that when you visit that massive museum in Atlanta, you have to be careful or otherwise you’ll miss mention of where it was first bottled. Which if it hadn’t been, would have left the whole industry in a different shape.
I’ve lived in Atlanta for fourteen years now, but I’m from Arkansas, with all of the good, bad and ugly that entails. My sensibilities were shaped by living in eastern Arkansas farm towns of 2000 people or fewer for the first twelve years of my life, then in Fayetteville (the site of the University of Arkansas) for most of my junior high and high school years. Most native Arkansawyers I know continue to identify strongly with the state, even if most who’ve left (like me) wouldn’t want to live there again for anything.
Jesuslynch and I knew each other in college (in a school with only 1000 students, you pretty much knew everyone). We deduced the connection from clues in each others’ posts.