That’s the best kind!
Titanic tourist submarine missing 6-19-2023 (Debris field found, passengers presumed dead. 06-22-23)
Is there any other kind?
D’oh!
That was sure dumb of me. Thank you for the kind point-out.
Admit it, you’ve either listened to it this week or been tempted.
I’ve never intentionally listened to that song, but I did somehow find myself singing it in the shower this morning.
That song never crossed my mind.
I think the salient point is they heard the craft implode, they knew exactly what happened, which nicely explains why nobody in a position to deploy significant assets seemed to be in too much of a hurry to perform a dedicated rescue operation. It was obvious to many observers there wasn’t a palpable sense of urgency on their part.
I don’t know about that.
They got vessels into the area immediately, got deep sea units less than 2 days after they lost contact, and actually found bits of debris 2 days after that. That’s really, really fast all things considered.
I get that in the modern internet culture, anything that takes more than an hour seems like an unbearable delay, but the speed with which they got significant assets to the area, deployed them, and got actual results belie the notion there was no sense of urgency.
Armchair quarterbacking is easy. Coordinating an international response under difficult conditions (that include bad weather in this case) is not trivial. That we got more or less definitive answers within a week is still a minor miracle.
Indeed. Depending on the ship, even if it’s just sitting at the dock, wasting time, it can take a couple of days just to get everyone and everything ready to go. And then to get there, you’re basically traveling at “school zone” speeds (by automobile standards). Going on for hundreds of miles.
I’m not sure anyone stuck in a small tube underwater without communication would agree with that assessment. If it had not collapsed they would have been rolling around in their own excrement.
A writer who said he was set to travel on the doomed Titan submersible said OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush told him that for the vessel’s hull, the company used cut-price Boeing carbon fiber that was past its airplane shelf life.
Here is the full series from the writer:
https://www.travelweekly.com/North-America-Travel/Mission-Titanic-part-1
https://www.travelweekly.com/North-America-Travel/Mission-Titanic-part-2
https://www.travelweekly.com/North-America-Travel/Mission-Titanic-part-3
According to James Cameron, it was known that the vessel was lost by Monday.
They knew right away those guys were chum. That was just for show. I mean, why would they expend resources for a futile endeavour otherwise?
Training, maybe.
A lot of people misunderstand how government works, too. A common complaint is say, air force fly bys at a football game or things like that. They’ve already budgeted the money, they have to train, maintain flight proficiency and flight hours. They are just doing publicly what they have to do anyway. They aren’t spending any extra money per se.
Updates on legal issues:
Canadian Transport Board will investigate role of the Polar Prince, the ship that carried the Titan, since it is registered as a Canadian ship:
The US Coast Guard will likely be the lead for the implosion investigation:
And OceanGate will likely seek court protection soon:
Moderating:
This remains a breaking news thread, even if the news has gotten less exciting. If you want to speculate on conspiracy theories, please take it to a new thread. And drop the topic here.
Thanks.
James Cameron is a technically brilliant guy, but so often his comments seem to circle back to being about him.
This is so common I don’t know if it’s a cliche or a trope.
I haven’t really been following the story but I’m curious why the Coast Guard is/was involved and not the Navy?
I’d assume it’s because the Coast Guard mission (among other things) is search and rescue; the Navy’s is warfare.
ETA: Could also be driven by what assets were closest to the site.
Sea rescue is their thing.