I know some who claim atheists are just pretending so they can refuse reading Bible and then afterwards say that “I didn’t know it was sin.”
Yeah, THAT’s gonna fool God. :smack:
On the other hand if somebody is deliberately trying to do it, it may not be that easy and he gives up eventually.
Amen. Testify, Brother Joey P…T-E-S-T-I-F-Y!
Okay David, show us on this doll where the bad theist touched you.
Oh, pshaw… you don’t really believe that.
Not at all, sir. If anything, I have an unfortunate habit of driving it into the ground.
Thank you though, for pointing out that painful character flaw.
Next time, perhaps you can just give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it. 
Republican.
That’s some strong Chrstianophobia you got going on.
I agree. The caveat – and what drives some people to be anti-religious zealots – is that even if the religion doesn’t institutionally interfere with civic processes or seek to abrogate civil rights, some of the more dogmatic and fundamentalist ones may instill those values in its adherents. Hence you have phenomena like the “religious right” political movement, in which things like anti-abortion zealotry and homophobia run rampant and are ultimately rooted in religious nuttery including Biblical literalism.
Fortunately such fundamentalists are in the minority, and even if most people aren’t explicitly or formally followers of the progressive Christianity and liberal Protestantism movements I mentioned earlier, most are closer to it than to the nutters. I know an exemplary representative of liberal Protestanism who is actually a pastor; religion is his vocation. And he’s probably one of the more insightful and non-judgmental people I’ve met, he’s conscientiously progressive on social policy, and he’s someone whose views I would value more on such matters than those of a dozen Bible-thumping religionists and spittle-mouthed atheists combined.
Your preposition would require a majority of the world’s population (since your points don’t actually seem to discriminate between religions, unless you think it’s insane to believe God is a being that exists somewhere but reasonable to believe Allah is) to be engaged in massive deception of themselves and others.
If believers are all huge liars, on what possible basis can you trust any information you’ve ever been given, including the information you’ve used to determine this?
Unfortunately, the nutters are the ones that are most vocal and in the headlines the most, due to their nuttery. You don’t hear about eastboro baptist church not protesting at soldier’s funerals.
And they work really hard to get legislation passed that will favor their flavor of theocracy, while at the same time, preaching the dangers of “sharia law.”
Ducking autocorrect.
This is true, so the OP should have been ranting against fundamentalist nutters using religion as a political weapon and the dangers of the religious right in American politics, not against the whole of liberal Christianity and those who see it as an enlightened basis of morality consistent with contemporary progressive values and scientific knowledge.
To be clear, I personally am not much of a religionist. I haven’t been to church in decades, and any “praying” I do is figurative, as in “I pray that this fucker doesn’t get elected as our next mayor”. I just have no problem with progressive religion as a social institution and a reasonable guideline for moral values among those who wish to see it that way. But show me fundamentalist religion that is deployed against science and reason, and I’ll be on it like a ton of bricks.
Was it on the order of an amputee having their lost limb reappear, or more like someone losing their resting bitch face?
This is going well.
Count me as another non-Christian who thinks the OP is filled with incorrect assertions and/or incoherent raving. There are many types of “Christian” and many of them are dishonest by virtue [sic] of being humans, who on the whole are good at lying to others and to themselves. But the whole “Belief in God is crazy and anyone who claims to do so is lying” approach is just plain ridiculous.
I feel that way sometimes. It helps to think about some of the good Christians you know…you do know some, right? Maybe some beloved relatives?
So… the OP is espousing an extraordinary claim that he knows with absolute certainty to be true. He also knows the hearts of all men better than they know themselves.
Guys, I’m pretty sure Ravid is God.
I really don’t believe that Ravid is real. Nobody does, no matter what they say.
He’s not coming back, is he…
Give it three days.
Like fish and house guests.
Satan’s sock I think.