To My Neighbors: Stop Taking My Stuff!

It’s not just my stuff they take, it’s everyone’s stuff. My neighbors across the street consist of Mom, Dad, a boy who’s about 17, twin boys who are 15, a girl who’s 14, and a boy who’s 11. I noticed when they first moved in (about 7 years ago) that they have a penchant for stealing, especially bikes. I saw the youngest one once, riding a bike that I clearly recognized as belonging to a friend’s daughter, and I confronted him about it. He took it down the street to the shopping center, and dumped it in the parking lot. :rolleyes:

Three weeks ago, there was a block party on our street. One of the twins showed up riding a blue bike. Now, I don’t recognize their bikes (they seem to get new ones a lot), but one of his brothers said “Hey, where’d you get that bike?” He said “I found it”. I asked him where he found it, and he said “Down on Elm St.” I told him he should go put it back before someone reported it missing. He didn’t. He was outraged a couple of hours later that someone (it wasn’t me) had called the cops and reported him for riding a stolen bike “I didn’t steal it! I found it!”

I call them the Demon Children. It’s gotten to the point where, if anyone in this neighborhood calls the police, the first thing the police say is “Is it one of the Demon Kids?”

So, yesterday afternoon, there’s a knock on the door. It’s one of the twins. He wants to borrow our new push mower (you know, the kind with no engine) to cut the grass for someone else in the neighborhood; the neighbor is going to pay him. I tell him no, he may not borrow the mower. I explain to him that the more the mower is used, the sooner the blades need to be sharpened, and I don’t think it’s fair that I should have to pay to have the blades sharpened so he can earn money cutting someone’s grass with my mower. A couple of hours later, he knocks on the door again, and tells me his little brother has my mower. I look across, and yep, there’s the youngest Demon Child, with my mower! I holler to him, twice, and he ignores me completely! Finally, I go over, touch him on the shoulder, and tell him firmly to go put the mower back. He does so, sullenly. I tell him if it happens again, I’m going to call the police. “Go ahead”, he says, “It’s not like they can do anything to me”.

And therein lies part of the problem. The kids are young enough that there’s really nothing the police can do, short of talk to them. And talking to them does no good at all.

Another part of the problem is the kids have too much time on their hands. Their behavior got them first kicked off the school bus, then out of school altogether (well, the three younger boys anyway; the older boy just graduated, and I never see any trouble out of the girl). Their behavior has gotten them kicked out of every recreational program they can get into.

The biggest part of the problem, though, is their parents. That’s why this isn’t in the pit. More than anything else, I feel sorry for the kids. Their parents are no more fit to raise kids than I’m fit to be the Queen of Russia. Mom’s approach to parenting is to stand on the front porch and scream at them. Dad’s approach is to track them down, drag them back to the house and scream at them. From Dad’s behavior, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s violent. My middle daughter once heard him screaming at one of the twins “I hate your guts!” :frowning: I mean really, how sad is that?

I know they’ve been investigated by social services. I’m also 99% certain those kids would have been taken away by now, if social services had anywhere to put them, but they just don’t.

The whole situation is just frustrating, annoying, and sad beyond belief.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

There were some kids in my son’s daycare like that. It’s sad, to pretty much know at such a young age, that there is a good chance they will end up spending a lot of their life in jail.

At least you know who it is! The people who steal stuff out of my yard are anonymous and so I don’t know where to go to get it back!

Call CPS? I’m sure if there was anything they could do the cops would have done it, though.

Them stealing stuff from you is the least of your worries. So sorry.

They’ve been investigated by CPS so many times it’d make your head spin. For a while there, a CPS worker was coming out to their house every week to “check up on them”. But there’s apparently not enough evidence that they’re being physically abused or neglected to allow them to remove the kids from the home. Also, I’ve been told by two different social workers in this area that qualified foster care is so tight that, in the words of one, “we just about have to see you set your kid on fire to take the kid away from you”. :frowning: :eek:

norinew, if I were you (hey, that rhymes!), I’d seriously consider moving for the sake of your entire family. No one needs to live around that.

It would be nice to try and reach these kids, but I suspect you have enough to do than to play arm chair psychologist with them.

I would suggest that you video tape their shenanigans and send it anonymously to the Child Welfare people, but be careful if you do … . The whole thing looks like something really bad is going to eventually happen, and I’m sure you don’t want to be there when it does.

I’ve often said (and have been highly criticized for it) that too often it seems like it’s the worst kinds of people that are creating the most children.

One long shot would be to write Dr. Phil and see if he could step in and make things better. It wouldn’t hurt to maybe download this thread and send it to him.

Lastly, if you think there’s a chance for you to help guide these kids … you might consider teaching them to play chess. And if and when they find out how fun and rewarding the game is, kinda suggest that they have the potential to one day be great players if they stick to it. Buy them a few age appropriate books on the game and see if they get into it. Maybe even take them to a chess club to play against other kids that are fans of the game. In other words, try and do SOMETHING to let them see that there’s a pretty nice future for them providing they stay out of trouble and focus on school and (fun) things that interest them and which are positive.

Good Luck!

A lady pulls her child to the parish building, and goes in to talk to the priest, leaving the wagon by the entrance. A lady that is always begging for handouts and lives a little way down the street walks by with her son. The son walks to the entrance and takes the wagon. The mother and son start walking home. The priest comes out and asks what they think they’re doing with the wagon. The mother says we found it and are taking it home. The priest tells her it’s by the entrance to the parish on their lawn and the lady and kid that own it are in the parish. She say’s I thought it was a donation, so I took it. The lady can’t see anything wrong with steeling the wagon. She’s not retarded, just a lazy begging thief.

Well as much as I hate the thought of sounding like the angry old man on the street, you might need to get everybody in the neighborhood to make sure they call the police every time something happens, no matter how small. Video tape them on any ‘new’ bike you see or with the lawn mower. If it turns out to belong to somebody, take the parents to small claims court. Basically, they are doing whatever they want and suffering no repercussions. If the police get tired of coming out, they will eventually do something. If the parents start having to actually clean up their kids messes and pay for the things they steal, they might do something. Maybe learn how to make a citizens arrest? I thing the police have to do something then.

No, your son will have to talk to them when he goes to borrow money from the bank.
That’s the way it happens to me, anyway. :slight_smile:

Well, it only rhymes if you read my name as “nori-new”, not as norine w, which is what it really is. :wink:
We are looking to move, too. This family is the most destructive one in the neighborhood, but not the only problem family. For instance, a family just moved in next door to them that run an unlicensed day care. There are scads of kids out front all the time, barely supervised. It’s worse at night after the kids go home, when there are often as many as 6 or 8 adults hanging out on the porch, carrying on so loudly it keeps us awake. Anyway, my hubby’s trying to get transferred to WV, where we’d like to buy a large piece of land.

You won’t be criticized by me. I agree. In fact, one of the major reasons I had three kids, no more, is I recognized three as my effective limit.

Not an entirely bad idea.

Well, I don’t know how to play chess. . .but they’ve been given countless opportunities to do other constructive things, and fucked up the opportunities. For instance, since the beginning of the school year, there’s been a Read to Succeed program going on Monday thru Thursday evening at the South Cumberland library. A van comes to pick up the participants. They get help with homework or whatever they need help with. There are also field trips, going to see plays at Frostburg State University, that kind of thing. Their behavior got them kicked out of the program. The twins, one at a time, aren’t too bad. Together? Ugh. It’s a matter of minutes before they’re screaming “Fag!” and “Homo!” at each other. The youngest one, I don’t think there’s any hope for him at all. He doesn’t seem to have a conscience.

RedSwinglineOne, I agree we need to keep calling the cops. I’ll bring this up at our next neighborhood association meeting.

Get the offending family to attend the meeting, and bring this issue up. :smiley:

Actually, the father won’t attend the meetings because I’m involved in them. He doesn’t like me, because I call the cops on his kids. According to him, even when I had nothing to do with the cops being called, it was me. :rolleyes:

Sheesh.

Sounds like we have the same neighbours.

In the 3 years since we moved here we’ve had kids in the neighbourhood

[ul]Throw eggs and snow/ice balls at our windows and doors.[/ul]
[ul]Bounce off the side of the townhouse (off the meter box in particular that is locked to protect the meter :dubious: ).[/ul]
[ul]Throw glass/garbage into our yard.[/ul]
[ul]Throw bottles and slurpees off the walkway overpass into traffic below[/ul]
[ul]Jump from said walkway to the big trees next to it, pulling down thick branches and weakening it enough that the last snow brought down an even bigger branch which resulted in the whole tree being cut down.[/ul]
[ul]Steal toys from front yards.[/ul]
[ul]Attempt to entice my son to play in traffic.[/ul]
[ul]Walk in my house and start commenting on my housekeeping skills (this one was 5 or so).[/ul]
[ul]Attempt to sell us free newspapers from the library half a block away.[/ul]
[ul]Borrow the mower to mow their lawn… and have to be hunted down 3 hours later because they were mowing half the lawns in the complex. (We knew where these ones lived, their father had borrowed the mower before… no one does now).
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And that’s just the kids.

Thing is, it’s not in a bad area. I’d still move if I could, but I can’t afford to (nor would I be able to find something as well located and big in my price range).