To the moronic twat behind the counter at the bank yesterday

Psst: A green card is I.D.

To MT’s boss: Hey Bitch, an Alien card does count as I.D. How bout you let the woman cash her fucking child suport check, Issued by the damn state, and let us get out of here.

While we are at it, do you see those signs that say "If we make you wait more than 5 minutes, we will give you 5$. I know you know that Friday lunch hours are busy. I know you know this because your response when I asked for that 5$ was don’t come here on friday at lunch. You know what? Perhaps you may consider not letting all but one teller take their lunch break during that time on fridays, because from the number of fins you were handing out yesterday, I am guessing you cost your branch but good.

This was not the branch I normaly bank at, but one in the inner city. I am seriously trying to decide if I should phone and complain somewhere about the green card thing. They really seemed to be doing what they could to avoid helping this woman.

Yes, call customer relations and complain, as specifically as possible – branch address, time, even phsyical descriptions of the personnel who created the problem (I’m assuming you didn’t spot name tags on them). Point out how many other customers received five bucks as a result of their actions. Politely but firmly state your objections, with a comment that you are unlikely to patronize that branch again and – if the hassling the woman endured was in fact pursuant to company policies – very likely to change banks because of it.

I used to be a bank teller for a major bank. My input:

  1. Green Cards were not considered valid ID. It was corporate policy. Why that is, I don’t know. I assume it is because Greed Cards are more easily or frequently falsified than other forms of ID. Perhaps you don’t need sufficient proof of your identity to get a Green Card. I don’t know. Whatever the case, all of the branch staff is bound by the corporate policy, so I would not blame the branch staff.

  2. Branch staffing levels for each branch for each business hour were fixed by some “efficiency expert” at the corporate office. Lunch breaks had to be taken pursuant to state law. This often created staffing shortages at the worst times. Managers and tellers quickly grew to hate these supposed “efficieny experts” because these “experts” were wrong about how many people it took to effectively run a branch. Again, the branch managers had no choice in the matter, they complained to corporate, they made the staffing schedules as best they could, and they took a lot of crap from customers, as well as the tellers who had even less control over things.

Customers had every right to complain or switch banks. Just bear in mind that the branch employees may be bound by corporate policy and may ultimately have no say in how these things are done.

I’m sorry - this amuses me GREATLY. This is not aimed at you, or anything, but hotdamn…

I’m working on getting my green card right now (I’m adjusting status after marrying an american citizen). Jesus Christ on a Pogo stick, do people know what kind of freakin’ HOOPS we have to jump through to get the privilege of living here? Try this!

  1. getting the proper visa to come to the US to marry a US Citizen - this involves security checks, name checks, more security checks and an interview at the consulate, a medical, and shitloads of photos, not to mention all the supporting documents including the “long form” birth certificates that include all your birth stats (if your country has 'em.)

  2. filing for AOS means you have to undergo BIOMETRICS and FINGERPRINTING, and all that joyful information gets sent to the frickin’ FBI for clearance. Oh, let’s not mention all the photographs and such - 3/4 profile, please!

  3. that’s not the end of it! to give you the greencard - and not even a “real one” yet, a conditional one, you have to appear at an interview with an immigration officer and, in the case of marriage, prove you are indeed married (with boatloads of proof, please - letters from friends (notarized), photographs, joint accounts and assets…)

  4. two years later you can get the conditions on your green card lifted.

Did you know that the current green cards contain more information than you’d ever want to know about someone? Immigration status, consular information, FBI information, fingerprint information, biometrics - it’s all stored there.

Myeah. Frankly, PR/Greencards are more secure than a passport.

Nothing says “welcome to your new country!” like being treated like a common criminal :wink: Hee. Not that I’m bitter or anything.

That is beyond odd. Green cards were considered valid ID at my major bank. Besides, if a customer came in to cash a check and had some form of ID on them, even if it wasn’t one of the bank-approved IDs we could call our manager(s) and ask if it was okay to go ahead and do the transaction. 9 times out of 10, it was.

I never saw a falsified Green card, and I was trained to notice discrepancies. I did, however, see plenty of faked driver’s licenses and state IDs.

Interesting replies. I have no idea why the policy was set that way. The policy seems absurd on its face, especially since passports were ok. Go figure.

Makes you wonder whether the no-green-card policy was set by a furriner-hating anti-immigrationist.

Me, to taxi driver, bank teller, pharmacist, etc.: “If my Green Card, which entitiles me to live and work and pay taxes in the United States is good enough for the FBI, the CIA, the RCMP, Interpol and the US Government, it is certainly good enough for you.”

My WAG is that it’s because until recently green cards didn’t have to be updated. I had a relative who had a valid green card with a picture of him when he first entered the country - thirty-five years before. That was 5 or 10 years ago, and i think they’ve recently forced people to get updated green cards. But if not I can see why banks would consider an id with a photo that was potentially decades old questionable.

Except the bank is a private company and plays by different rules.

Does a Green Card have a signature on it? If not, there’s your answer.

I’m just about to embark on the same process, and i must say that i’m not looking forward to it.

If Green Card isn’t on a wage slave’s list of acceptable IDs, then all that other stuff doesn’t matter. You may think it is good enough, but (many, many moons ago) I wouldn’t bend rules for you.[sup]1[/sup] The person behind the counter doesn’t make the rules and the makers of the rules could give a shit less about his/her opinion of the rules. S/he is simply expected to follow the rules without fail. If the customer is lucky, there will be someone else available with the authority to override some of the rules. However, if TPTB[sup]2[/sup] decide no Green Cards, no matter what, the customer is SOL[sup]3[/sup]

[sup]1[/sup]Unless you were very cute and wearing a low cut dress.
[sup]2[/sup]The Powers That Be
[sup]3[/sup]Shit Outta Luck

Just slog through the inanity, mhendo. When really stressed out, just find comfort that the whole process proves you’re willing to support the nation. You’re providing fodder for legions of drones, paper companies, dubious though expensive software suppliers, endless spinoff suppliers, navel-gazing politicans. etc. Heck, your application alone will probably clear cut a few forests.

I’d like to second what eveyone has said about Green Cards. My wife used to have one, and I have to say that I’ve never seen so many security measures on a single piece of plastic. Considering the fact that we’re talking about one of the most sought after objects in the world, that’s not at all surprising.

After some Googling, it appears as though Green Cards do not bear the signature of the card holder.

Bank tellers use signature matching as a primary form of identification.

Thus, the Green Card is not a reliable form of ID for these banks.

The local bank has rolls of Pillsbury cookie dough on their counters. I was ashamed that my punometer was not working that day. I was genuinely curious why cookie dough was lining the teller row. “Because we’re earning you extra dough!”, was my answer.
Chagrin.

I appreciate that banks need your signature to verify who you are from previous transactions. I suppose the picture on the Green Card counts for nothing, then? I’m not trying to be argumentative about it, but if the person on the card matches the person standing in front of you, how much more proof do you need?

My guess is that although different people can have very similar, even identical, facial features, their signatures will vary widely.

Oh shit! I forgot, this is the pit…

Ya know what? Fuck you and your cutesy “rolls o’ dough”! Patronizing assholes.