Apart from the first of the day, on the loo, it is mainly making up for nicotine deprivation - but if I give up for about 5 days, the first puff knocks me over.
In the UK they pretty much can, they can bust you for flicking ash out of the car window, and what constitutes ‘without due care and attention’ is a moveable feast.
No, ex-smokers enjoy the nicotine in a joint, I’m pretty sure of that.
Oh, I’m sure that’s the test they’ll use. One of your sites said it’s more sensitive than the urine test and another said it’s best for habitual users. I’m wondering if they ingested enough for it to show.
The kids are going to have THC present in them just by being that close to other people smoking what looks to be heavy amounts of pot- I don’t think they got any in their system through inhalation- it took me weeks to figure out how to inhale, and I was 13. I don’t think this is something you can learn to do at age two.
Convenicence stores near me sell the wrappers only, in various flavors, sans tobacco. What I don’t get is how these are openly plied in convenience stores, when their use is limited to pot, but bongs and such can only be sold in head shops.
Of course you can. First of all, the stereotypical pot-smoker deep inhale and hold it is completely unnecessary. You can get just as high smoking a joint like a cigarette. Secondly, a two year old can absolutely mimic his big brothers and inhale smoke. Our two year old can blow bubbles, drink from a straw, blow on her hot food, hold her breath in the bathtub, and play the harmonica and kazoo. Controlling your breathing while pursing your lips is not a high level task.
What exactly were you trying to figure out? How to do it like they do in the movies, or like your friends were doing? Simple inhalation isn’t hard. If you mean you didn’t get stoned the first 2-4 times you smoked pot, that’s totally normal and has nothing to do with your smoking technique - the body needs to build up some THC stores in your fat before you get stoned the third or fourth time you smoke weed.
They’re sold for use in rolling your own tobacco. Only tobacco. Nudge, nudge, winkwink.
For a long time I simply could not figure how to breathe in to get the smoke in my lungs. The unsucessful attempts were with a regular joint- I could emulate what others were doing by drawing the smoke in, but never got high. I just thought you gathered the smoke in your mouth, held it in and blew it back out- I did not understand that you needed to get it in your lungs. Using a bong eliminated any problems.
Beat me too it. I don’t agree with more popular with “black stoners” however. It is a far more popular way to smoke for many young people regardless of race. One Girls Opinion
Okay-- I’ve got a question, and I’m not trying to be controversial:
Were the two small children actually harmed by this incident? Yes, what the older kids did was incredibly stupid and immature, and they should be punished for it, but I’m not sure they should see jail/prison time*. (Community service and some counselling would probably do better.)
What are the possible real effects of a small child ingesting a small amount of marijuana? A child who is given alcohol could die of alcohol poisoning but I’ve never heard of “weed poisoning.”
I haven’t seen anything indicating what their likely punishment will be.
Lissa, the problem, as I understand it, (besides the legal and social ones) has to do with marijuana’s effects on the myelin sheathing of the nerves. The body of the nerves are all coated with, basically, fat. This acts as insulation, making electronic signals “jump” from one axon to the next dendrite (or vice versa, I forget) so that signals are sent faster than if they traveled on a continuous string. Marijuana, from what I understand, increases the lipid (fat) deposited on this system. Good if you have MS, where the myelin sheathing is wearing away and marijuana might hypothetically help rebuild it. But bad if your brain is still developing. The fat gets on the ends of the nerve cells, instead of staying on the body, and the ends can’t grow and branch the way they ought to (because they can’t get through the excess fat) and so you end up dumber than you might have been.
This, if true (I learned it in high school 15 years ago, so it might be outdated theory), would be a very good reason not to smoke marijuana until your brain stops developing around age 22. At least, that’s why *I *chose not to smoke until then. It’s also why I favor age restrictions along with legalization.
Correct in principle. This is called saltatory communication, and it occurs along the length of the axon (not from axon to dendrite), which is sheathed in myelin interrupted by nodes of Ranvier.
I’ve not heard this. The cannabinoids are lipid-derived and are highly lipid-soluble, but I’m not sure they increase the activity of oligodendrocytes (the cells responsible for sheathing axons).
Cannabinoids have some neuroprotective qualities; I would hypothesize that any change in myelination might be by preservation of the oligodendrocytes than induction of myelin synthesis, but I’m not sure. I’ll take a look.
If you would, I’d really appreciate it. I can already tell you know a lot more than I do about this stuff! (Can I get partial credit for remembering at least the mechanics of impulse conduction and the words “myelin”, “axon” and “dendrite” for 15 years with no review? )
As I said, this was taught to me in high school, during our annual Drug Unit in health class. The reason it stuck with me was because it was the first (and only) time ever in school that an authority figure told us WHY “Drugs are bad.” She also told us why drugs feel good. She was a phenomenal teacher in that she really influenced me to not use drugs when all my friends were using at that age. I trusted her because she treated me like a rational human being who was going to make up my own mind, instead of a trained monkey. I made the conscious choice not to risk messing with my brain development as a teen. When I was 22, I made the conscious choice to smoke marijuana for the first time with my best friend who’d been smoking for 10 years. I really, really liked it!
But, all that being said, I’d actually like to know if it’s true, or just outdated theory. I will freely admit that I haven’t heard it elsewhere, except the idea that marijuana might help rebuild myelin sheathing in degenerative disorders (that part is on just about any pro-medical marijuana sheet.) In fact, I tried asking about it once here on the Dope, but no one responded.
Except the part where you may become dumber than you may have been if you smoke at a younger age. You must understand that drinking alcohol in and of itself is not terribly bad for your system if you injest it in small quantities, however, once you catch a buzz, you have just succeeded in burning more brain cells than if you smoked a marijuana cigarette. I’ll try and find the cite, but IIRC the cite is a study of brain damage from drinking excessive amounts of alcohol, compared to damage done from ingesting marijuana. I do some looking.
As for developmental issues I would say drinking excessively or smoking pot excessively at a young age would clearly cause a problem in cognitive development. I had some old journal articles on Marijuana and it’s effects from the APA, I’ll try and find the more controversial ones… i.e the ones supporting legalization.
No I’m not a lobbyist, just a supporter of green living
I agree that there is no nicotene in weed itself, however most people who I know that smoke weed mix it with tobacco, so in a way weed in the form its more commonly smoked in does contain nicotene. This might differ between social groups and locations though.
You misspelled “leave room to put a lot more pot than a joint”. That’s the point of the whole exercise, you know.
No, nicotine has a buzz. I felt it the first time I smoked a cigarette, I feel it the first time I smoke after a long drought, and I feel it when I smoke cigars or shisha.
I call BS. IME there’s a huge difference if you hold it. (If you’re smoking chronic, at least.)
I submit that there may be geographical differences, but wherever I’ve smoked pot, I’ve never known anyone to smoke blunts except for black people. Can’t tell you why, but blunts are an integral part of black [American] stoner culture, much more so than in the rest of the stoner world. I’m not sure why nobody believes me, but that’s my experience and, if you pay attention, you’ll see the difference in stoner movies with predominantly black characters; to name just one comparative example, it’s almost exclusively blunts in How High, but a combination of joints and bongs in Half Baked. MMV and apparently it does, but I’m a “young person” and I’ve participated in lots of pot smoking betwen young people, and that’s what I’ve seen.
The stoners I smoked with in high school (here in San Diego) almost always threw a little tobacco in with their joints. I did it too. One of my friends is still pretty adamant about it; there’s a case to be made that it improves the burn consistency, but I don’t like it much anymore (now that I smoke less tobacco) since it makes it harsher and detracts from the taste. But I always saw joints as somewhat wasteful anyway.
First of English is not my main language so bear with me.
Location is actually very much a key word.
I have been a casual ‘‘weed’’ smoker for well over 10 years and have in all that time been interested in the way that different cultures smokes.
I will leave out the technical terms as the people who know those terms will know what Im talking about and the people who do not know the terms will have an easier time understanding what I write. (secondly being from a non-english speaking country where the language is heavily influenced by slang I might end up using terms that is more confusing)
In the US the far most widely spread form of ‘‘weed’’ is dried plant parts. This form does not need to be mixed with any form of tobacco but leaves the choice wether to mix in other things in the hands of the person preparing the ‘‘weed’’. In this form it is also very easy to chose wether or not one wishes to add a favoured flavour.
In northern europe where I am from the most common form to find the ‘‘weed’’ is in the form of a hard flat block. This is mainly due to the facts that its too cold to grow these plants here on a large scale and that in order to get it here it needs to be smuggled across several borders. Trying to smoke it in this form is like attempting to set a brick on fire and secondly its concentrated nature makes it a somewhat unpleasant high if one manages to smoke it. This form is dependant on being mixed up with tobacco or a similar plant more suited for smoking.
Blending the ‘‘weed’’ with tobacco is sometimesreferred to as the ‘‘european way’’
Obviously no matter where one is they can get hold on ‘‘weed’’ in any form they desire as a self respecting dealer will have a wide selection. But in some countries it is very easy or very difficult to get ones hands on a certain type.