http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/04/pot.kids/index.html
First off, I’m not condoning children of this age smoking pot. Secondly, I believe the teenagers probably were giving pot to the kids.
What I want to know is…how are they actually going to prosecute this? They can’t prove it was actually pot, and I’m guessing the ability to actually get the kids to smoke enough to have it show up in their bloodstream is next to nil.
What would the DA use as real proof to prosecute these assholes?
Well, even if it wasn’t really pot, smoking anything if you’re under 18 is illegal, as is providing any underage person with cigarettes, etc. If the video showed the teen in question giving his young nephews alcohol, the charge would be endangering a minor or something similar.
That said, you’re probably right about the D.A. not being able to prove that the substance in question was actually marijuana; more than likely they’ll probably plead it out to a misdemeanor.
Of course, if stupidity was a felony, our young perp would serve very hard time for being dumb enough to videotape the incident!
A better question is: how much responsibility does the child’s mother bear in this? And what (if anything) will she be charged with?
I’ll never understand the rash of stupid offenders who tape their crimes. Pathetic.
As for the mom, I saw her on CNN this morning and she said she was in bed with a toothache and didn’t hear or smell anything. They also said she had taken OTC medication so I’m not quite understanding how she could be “out” to the point where she wouldn’t notice.
Yes, I agree the smoking thing in itself would be provable, but I don’t think that will carry the same sentence as pot would. My husband and I watched the video, and it looked to both of us like at least one of the “joints” was really a skinny cigar. It really didn’t look like any joint I’ve ever smoked, rolled, or seen in my life.
These young kids nowadays take cigar wrappers, remove the tobacco and add marihuana- it tastes better for one, and may or may not add to the high you get.
I don’t have a dog in the hunt, but is it possible for mom to be asleep in the bedroom and kids smoking pot in living room- absolutely. It should be child endangerment for smoking pot in the same room as a toddler, let alone putting a joint in its mouth- second hand smoke and all, but its not like the toddlers were inhaling- I would guess they did it for the comedic effect- we used to blow smoke in the dogs face to “get it high” whilst high- obviously pot impares rational judgment for some.
Really. I’ve never heard that before. My friends and I always preferred the taste of pot. I don’t see how it could add to the high, as there’s no buzz agent in tobacco.
Strange, considering how many millions of people become addicted to it…
Well they’re not the same kind of addiction. Tobacco isn’t a buzz…never was. I’m a smoker and I’ve smoked more than my share of pot; you cannot compare the two addictions. Pot is a high. Tobacco is not.
My wife first started smoking to get that quick head rush on the first hit of a cigarette. Her addictive personality grabbed that and ran with it, and now she smokes.
You could do blood tests for the kids looking for THC. It is a routine test and will show if they have been exposed to any significant amount.
Other indications would be riding their tricycles around the block especially slowly and casually and the refrigerator being wiped out of child-like food.
I get the addiction thing with tobacco. It feels good to smoke. But I still maintain that we’re talking about apples and oranges. Cigarettes do not effect the brain in the same way.
You’ve never heard of blunts? IME they’re far more popular than joints among black stoners.
And if you really believe tobacco can’t give you a buzz, you’ve clearly never smoked shisha or cigars.
Yes, if they were ingesting enough, you certainly could. I personally don’t think you could teach a 2-year-old how to properly inhale, though. Maybe with the 5-year-old, but he’d have to inhale quite a bit for it to show up. It’s possible with the older one, but I say no way on the baby.
And yes…a bunch of crumpled baby cookie wrappers on the floor would be a dead giveaway.
Most cigar joint afficiandos I know remove all of the tobacco, which would only leave whatever added effect the wrapper itself gives. If you leave some of the cigar tobacco in, you definitely get a different knid of sensation than with just pot- not necessarily better, but definitely a harsher draw, becasue with pot you tend to inhale a hell of a lot deeper than you would a regular cigar- at least I don’t think cigar smokers inhale the way pot smokers do.
Yeah, I’m dyin’ to see you get a two year old to pee in a cup. Say WHEN!
Yep. Black and Milds are generally the cigarillo of choice, at least around here.
And don’t the kids on the video REPEATEDLY say that what they are smoking and having the kids smoke is pot? That isn’t enough? I suppose a good lawyer could try to argue that it proves nothing, but given the attitude of the mother and the family, I don think they are getting away on that point.
CNN showed the tape again this morning and said they are, indeed, going to drug test the kids. Sometime in the next week or so. I think they should do it sooner than that, as a small amount will probably be out of their system by then.
If you don’t normally smoke tobacco then you can get one heck of a buzz, although it might depend on the person.
I’m a heavy (tobacco) smoker and I find that alcohol is definitely enhanced by nicotine, since I’ve never smoked dope without nicotine in my system I can’t be sure of the cumulative effect, but I’m willing to take friends’ word for it.
They go hand-in-hand for me, too, but I’m a heavy smoker as well. It’s more of a social thing than a buzz thing for me.
I think the non-smoker tobacco buzz is more of a dizzy thing (lack of oxygen). I mean, if it was the same thing, they could bust you for smoking tobacco while driving!
All they need to do is extract a single healthy hair follicle, where the traces of THC exist for the lifespan of the follicle. Blood work may be faster but I suspect they will go for more proof, and human hair is a common and popular method used to detect drug traces.
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Blunts are popular and not just with certain ethnic segments of the population. Me, I grew up with Big Bambü but I’m old. Apparently the flavors absorbed by the papers do lend a certain appeal taste-wise.
I figured my taste buds were being saved for the Doritos. 