Come now, Tom! You’re easily one of the brightest people I’ve ever interacted with, but on this you’re essentially claiming that you’re too fuzzy-headed for any sensible discernment of hate speech vs non-hate speech at all? I’m not buying it.
Sure, there will be ambiguous examples, those that are on the bubble, which should not be deleted or result in the poster being banned, but…
So you recognize hate speech well enough to expect other mods to act on it, but not well enough that you can act on it.
Can you explain how it is that the rule against hate speech is so vague as to prevent you from enforcing it, but the rule of “don’t be a jerk” is clear enough that you can enforce it?
Since we’ve been explicitly forbidden from calling racists ‘racists’ in GD, that would be us anti-racists in a fight with one hand tied behind our backs, no? Since they can post any old racist shit they like as long, as it isn’t personal attack.
What makes you think that Construct’s posting style (not name) does not scream TROLL?
There are a lot of posters whom I regard as trolls. I generally do not ban on my personal feelings, but allow them to demonstrate their intention to specifically rile up posters rather than promoting unpopular positions in poorly worded posts before I push for banning.
FTR…there is a track record of individuals around the world…from NYC to London to Madrid to Paris to Tunisia to Egypt to Nigeria to Iraq to Yemen to India and Pakistan and Afghanistan to Indonesia to the Philipines that have targeted civilians and have one ideology in common. Not recognizing that there is a strain of Islam that preaches and actually commits terror is to ignore reality. Obviously, that doesnt mean that all or a majority of Muslims agree or support them.
BTW…please remind me who is funding al-Queda? Who hides them?
BTW Ambushed…if I dont toe your line Im just as vile as someone else. Really? This isnt a black and white issue. If I were condemning lynchings I wouldnt condemn the individuals who perpetrated them; I condemn the culture that fostered and supported and protected them. The KKK didnt exist in a vacuum. Obviously the levels of guilt in these groups vary.
I misspoke. Of course I would condemn them. But I wouldnt only condemn them as ambushed suggests we should only blame the actual 19 al-queda terrorists. We must blame the culture that spawned them. There was a reason why we wanted Germany de-Nazified after WW2.
Bullshit. It’s an internet message board and a privately owned one at that. It’s not a meeting of philosophy professors. They can ban any topic they want. (Granted some of them are dumb, but this isn’t one of them) I’m guessing if I made a topic on how to construct a meth lab, that would get shut down real fast. On the other hand, they let a freaking pedophile post about his um, “inclinations” for months before he was finally banned (for other reasons), despite the fact that he was annoying and disgusting. So
And not all speech is protected at that. Kiddy porn is illegal. So is making death threats against people.
Now I think Construct is obviously putting us on. But “we should allow all ideas to be expressed” is bullshit.
“They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.”
In addition, it’s lazy and fundamentally bad moderation to refuse to moderate stuff like “Every single one of them should be lined up against the wall and shot” and other obvious hate-speech-isms.
I’m with Mr. Dibble regarding the back-asswards mod-idea that using the term “racist” to describe someone who promotes murder/lynching/ethnic cleansing/racial inferiority is BAD and worthy of generating mod note or a warning, but that actually advocating those positions is just fine and dandy.
Nah. If it was Trump they would be TRUMP’S AL-QUEDA and be the biggest best most prestigious terrorist group ever. And he would probably gold plate them.