Are you this much of a stupid ass with your students?
I just wanted to note that I’ve noticed this, too. Yet another in the line of “reasonable posters who’ve become pod people”, though most of those are casualties, on the right-wing side, of the past six years of Bush, 9/11 and Iraq.
And this is where, omitting the word hypocrite, I agree with the OP’s title.
Badchad – and for that matter Der Trihs and a dozen other posters – occasionally make strong points in argument, but he is so far, far over the Jerk line that he is a net minus to the fight against ignorance. It’s fucking OBVIOUS that he adds nothing but hate and vitriol to the boards, and yet you puss out because “he hasn’t broken explicit rules.” Horseshit. He’s a jerk, and you should have banned the fucker long ago.
Of course, after this pitting, the new puss-out will be that “well, I don’t want to create the perception that he was banned because of a pitting …” Grow some fucking stones and do what 90% of your paying customers want.
At the end of the day, the question is whether or not you want a board with ignorant, arrogant assholes on it. Until you start getting rid of them, the SDMB’s answer is yes.
I got a moral cheat code! IDGAFF
It only works on certain issues, though. I think I’m playing the shareware version of the game.
What he said.
Contrapuntal. Atheist.
What a load of horseshit. badchad posts here for absolutely no other reason than to stir up shit and take shots at religious posters. He’s a classic troll, and an embarassment to both the SDMB and atheists in general.
You are nuts. tomndebb is one of the best mods I’ve ever seen, on this board or any other. I think GD is by far the most difficult forum to moderate, so the fact that he manages to remain patient, fair and even-tempered in the middle of heated political and religious arguments is beyond me. I’d last about five minutes before I snapped and just deleted the whole forum and then smashed my computer with a sledgehammer.
As for badchad, I personally don’t think he’s a troll. I do think he’s a bit of a one-tricky pony who has the unfortunate tendency to be an antagonistic dickhead at times. Which is a shame, because I think we could use more people willing to debate unpopular positions with facts and cites. If he were to stop trying to play gotcha and instead start debating with a bit more honesty and a lot more courtesy, I think he could be a valuable poster.
I’m undecided on whether badchad falls squarely into the troll pidgeon-hole, though I can’t see how it would be subject to debate that he’s frequently an antagonistic dickhead.
Our one guiding principle is Don’t be a jerk.
It clear that trolling is one form of jerkitude, and if he ever clearly crosses the line into trolling he should be subject to disciplinary action. However, even if he is not trolling per se, from what I see has been behaving jerkishly.
His single song, though he plays it well, has gotten tiresome. My opinion is that the time has come to tell him forcefully to change his tune. If he can’t, he should have his microphone shut off.
Which goes back to my point about Tom’s incompetence: if someone pisses you off, and you have the majority of posters on your side (theists and Christians in particular, who just take offense at badchad’s content, plus the atheists and frethinkers who are pissy about cusswords and a belligerent stance in general or who maybe are just stupid pricks, I can’t quite tell) you can label someone a troll. It makes no sense to do so, when the guy is engaging in debate right and left, and backing up his argument in devastatingly logical and literate terms, but what the fuck. Who’s going to stop Tom from throwing the word ‘troll’ around?
If that gambit is exposed as hopelessly weak, you can then say, with Billdo, “Okay, technically, he isn’t a troll, but screw it, he’s uh, an asshole? Nah, he’s a …dipshit? No-o-o-o–I’ve got it, he’s a one-trick pony,”: meaning that he likes to discuss a topic that maybe you don’t like so much to discuss.
The natural solution, the one observed in, oh, 99% of the threads around here that I and everyone else doesn’t give two shits about, is “Move on. Don’t read the fucking thread if you’d rather read another thread.”
You going to blow up this incredibly weak “one-trick pony” (which he isn’t really–if he just kept making the same small point over and over, maybe, but he’s disputing the belief-systems of billions of people, and various holy texts and traditions in great detail) and say, “Well, it’s the next worse thing to being a troll, so fuck it, let’s ban him.” You honestly don’t see how frightened and weak and pussy-like that makes you appear to be?
You have an amusingly lax definition of “devastatingly.”
Q.E.D.
Well no one really. 1. Because this is the pit and you are allowed to call people trolls. 2. Becuase Tom is a mod, and mods are allowed to call people trolls anywhere they like.
So your argument is, Tom is incompetent for calling badchad a troll and not banning him. On the other hand, if he does ban him, he is “frightened and weak and pussy-like”.
I know, let’s just call him an incompetent, frightened, weak, pussy-like mod. Problem solved.
I was brought in a fundamentalist Baptist church. At about age 16 or so I figured out that I was being fed a big load of bullshit. So I quit going to church.
Now I suppose I could devote my life to employing devastating literate logic in order to bring all those poor deluded souls up out of their pits of misery. My guess is either one or both of two things would result. A) I would persuade no one. B) I would be perceived to be even a bigger asshole than I already am.
badchad could illuminate with the fire of a thousand suns and he would still be the biggest asshole around because he is a rude, condescending, vulgar, self-centered prick. Rock on, dude.
So you think atheists should adopt a position of “Shut your fucking filthy mouths, all day, all night, forever”? Why?
I like reading his intelligent, varied and witty critiques of the Bible, of Christians, of hypocrites, weaklings and losers of all stripes. You don’t? Then get the fuck out of here and don’t come back, okay? What are you contributing? You don’t like badchad? I get that. I got it a long time ago. Talk about your one-trick ponies.
I need dumb fucks like you paraphrasing my argument like Tom needs a little more support from his mindless choir.
Tom knows perfectly well badchad’s not a troll, but he persists in hinting that, on some strange, unknowable, mystical level (I wonder where he gets that load of crap?) badchad actually IS a troll. He just doesn’t fit any of the rational, logical, black and white definitions of a troll, but what does rationality, or logic matter, when you feel passionately about something and have mindless minions cheering you on? It’s not like the SD is a bastion of rational and rigorous thought or anything, is it? Not when Christianity is being threatened by the likes of badchad.
He doesn’t ban him because the other mods would have to call him on it, so instead, he just hints that he’d like to call him a troll, but he’s being restrained and diplomatic, when in reality he’s going off on badchad like a pit bull on a chihuahua, because he can get away with it around here. That makes him a wimp in my book, a demagogue, a bully, and a bit of a dope. I won’t repeat “pussy,” because I actually like pussies.
Intelligent? Possibly.
Varied? No.
Witty? Only if your definition of witty is begin rude to other people.
What critiques of “hypocrites, weaklings and losers of all stripes”? He only ever criticises Chiristians.
So if people don’t like badchad and criticise him they should leave? Why? It’s a public message board, they have as much right to dislike and criticise bafchad as he does to criticise them. If you don’t like it, you should leave.
Someone call Fenris because there’s a two-for-one here.
Contrapuntal might have his flaws but he’s a sweet guy. You, on the other hand, are one of the most caustic human beings I have ever met. I like your views, but dude, you lash out like a busted canopy on a party boat, smackin’ random people in the eyes when all they wanted was to have a good time.
I honestly don’t understand this. Who would the atheists be saying this to?
I sincerely hope that arrogance is not your best feature, for it unbecomes you.
Got it. You chime in with support, that’s a contribution. I disagree, no contribution. That would be the arrogance I was referring to. Makes you look small. Maybe a hairshirt would be more appropriate? Your asshole buddy starts a Pit thread and you get to decide who responds? Why don’t you two start your own little message board? You could hold meetings in your treehouse, and pull the ladder up after you, to keep the riff-raff out.
Of course, I have made no mention of one-trick ponies. But I assure you that the total my posts calling badchad a rude motherfucker, when considered as a percentage of my total posts, approaches zero.
Promotion at last. My doper cred just went up a few million points.
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I’ve noticed.
Shall we have a poll of mods to see which of them want to ban badchad? I find it amazing that you know what is in the minds of all the mods.
Agreed.
I’ve been reading this stuff for a few years and I must say badchad gives as good as he gets and he’s toughed out some pretty bitter pile-ons.
In many ways, badchad is a convenient liturgical test for our Pious few. And when you get down to the brass tacks of theology, his challenges make for interesting reading of an otherwise stale subject.