Tonights special: apologist apoplexy du rjung

Anybody else smell a fart in here? I thought not.

As a new poster I agree. The rules, as I understand them, are clear.

And as read the intercourse there was no accuasations made.

What do you think was meant by “the T-word”?

Regards,
Shodan

As usual you passed right through stupid and back to funny.

It wasn’t exactly a miracle of deduction, Watson.

I have a hard time believing that’s the point of the rule. Why make a rule specifically about acusations and insinuations of trolling if what you really want to do is eliminate a whole set of behavior of which that is but a specific subset? Why not just make a rule against the behavior?

It’s as if you wished to stop drunk driving, so passed a law outlawing drinking while driving Saabs. WTF?

I strongly suspect that the reason for the rule being as it is is because accusations of trolling are extremely egregious examples that need to be dealt with.

You seem to understand and agree with this in your next post when Ellis Dee points out that your explanation is fucked:

So, which is it, is it calling people trolls that’s ok and Junior modding which is bad, or is it that you don’t really want people calling each other trolls and need to emphasize it (as seems more logical)

If it’s the latter than why create the Ukele Ike Disingenuous Interpretation exception specifically to let Elvis off the hook?

Why not just make a rule against Junior modding if that’s the issue?

This is getting thin.

It’s not just about those things. It’s about my next door neigbor, who’s gone to work every day for the last twenty years. It’s about lost children, and kittens. It’s about homeless single mothers and hungry babies.

I’m doing it for them. I’m sorry, but I can’t let them down.

Mymom doesn’t use bent railroad spikes to pierce her nipples.

She uses barbed wire in the left one and when the right was was reconstructed she had an eyeball tattooed where the nipple ring was.

Dual railroad spikes is definitely Ike’s mom.

I understand that “the T-word” means troll. But that’s not what I said. Here’s the exchange:

Larry Mudd: "Wow, two pages. How the hell did that happen?"

UncleBeer: "Scylla “chummed” the lefties, that’s how."

ElvisL1ves: “Is that what it’s called, now? Not the T-word?”

I originally read it as Elvis jokingly asking if that’s what UncleBeer was saying. I didn’t think UncleBeer was and he confirmed that he was not. I didn’t think Elvis was serious. I still read it that way.

Asking a poster if he accused another poster of trolling, said poster denying it leaves us with no accuasation, IMO.

True. This thread has enough hijacks; I posted my [post=7425492]thoughts[/post] on this in the friendlier confines of ATMB.

Dude, once you get to know Shodan a little better, you won’t bother trying to use logic on him. He is immune to it.

That was in response to DFTH… :smack:
you gotta get a shorter name.

Ha ha. Yeah, I know… But so far it looks as though I’m going to get stuck with DFTH.

Try to follow along:

  1. Trolling is against the rules, and is generally a serious/ban-worthy offense.

  2. It was decided that calling people trolls should also be against the rules, for multiple reasons:
    [ul]
    [li] We don’t want to feed obvious trolls[/li][li] We don’t want posters trying to use the troll rule to get people in trouble/banned who they simply dislike/disagree with.[/li][/ul]

  3. Junior modding is also against the rules, but it was decided that a separate “don’t accuse other posters of breaking the trolling rule” rule was needed for extra clarity. Don’t look at me, I wasn’t a mod then.

  4. While we don’t appreciate people’s attempts to skirt the rules via non-subtle innuendo (e.g. living under a bridge references), we’re also not going to get our panties in a twist over the possibility that someone may have managed to vaguely insinuate that someone else was a troll if you squint and read it just right. Especially when the only reason to do so would be to satisfy rules fetishists like yourself. There comes a point where possible minor infractions are so far from the goals I’ve listed above as to not be a big deal.

Not that I think Elvis committed even a minor infraction of the rules in this case, mind you, but even if he had, your hissy fit would still be pointless and lame.

ok.

Where’s the anti-junior modding rule? I can’t seem to find it.

I’m not a rules fetishist, and I understand where you’re coming from.

Lame, Yes. Pointless? No. The whole issue could only have possibly unfolded as tit did because Ike as a moderator had chosen to behave in an openly hostile fashion. It seems to me that all the other moderators understand that need to behave civilly and not promote open hostility with the members they moderate because if they get personal it can be used against them.

Apparently not very effectively.

For those keeping score, and as helpful orientation to the new Hypothetical Guy, askeptic’s advice applies with even greater accuracy to Elvis.

Scylla, geeze man. Let it go. This stupid little infraction, if that’s even what it was—the mods obviously don’t think so—ain’t worth all the self-aggravation, is it? And I say this as a guy who got a (very mild) warning from Giraffe for much more explicit, but similar, statment. Significantly, or not, that one too, involved that mooncalf, Elvis.

Oh, come on. Scylla came in spoiling for a dumb fight and got one. The thread is just his way of saying “Yeah, well this lickspittle’s got a wuff tongue.”

I guess he periodically needs to work off a little aggression to maintain his charmp.

I can see why you find that “openly hostile.” Never have I seen such vituperation levelled in the BBQ Pit.

How come THAT comment bothered you so much more than the barrage of “Jesus H. Christ, Scylla, get a life!” and “Damn, Scylla, get up from the computer once in a while!” and “Hey, Scylla, do you really have nothing better to do with your life?” posts?

It’s not really just 'cause you’ve got a hardon for me, right? Me and my naturally wavy hair?

No, it’s because the rest of us have had you and he hasn’t.

Maybe. I, however, see the OP as a valid topic for the pit. As valid as all the friggin’ complaints about Chick tracts, supermarket discount cards, SUV owners, cell phone morons and grammar Nazis anyway.

I’m afraid I don’t quite understand Scylla’s antipathy towards, Uke, either. Although I’m pretty much every bit as tighty-righty as Scylla, and Uke’s a well-known pinko, fellow-traveller, commune-type green grocer, I get along with the guy just fine. Uke’s always had a hale humor about his own politics. He didn’t even give me too much shit when I bought a Nixon biography the the Strand bookstore and plopped it out on the table in the bar in front of him in NYC last spring. I don’t think I’ve seen Uke make more than a couple dozen serious political-type posts in the many years we’ve both been around here. Maybe he and Scylla did cross swords at one time, but if so, I’m entirely unaware of it.

Oh sure, so do I.