Top Five Brutally Bad Plotholes in Quality Movies: Let's Compile a List

Because the door was locked, and it’s not like a station wagon where there’s two kids in the rear-facing jump seat that would have seen him and hollered at Dad to stop the spaceship because they drove off from the gas station without Billy again.

Actually, some NVGs come equipped with an infrared lamp as well, for when it is too dark to use ambient light.

In Flightplan, Jodie Foster plays an aeronautical engineer who is on a transatlantic flight on a plane that she helped design. A major part of the plot requires the audience to believe that no one else on the airplane (besides two people who are in on the scheme to frame her) would notice that she has her young daughter with her. In other words, no other passenger on a long overseas flight could possibly notice, or even be interested in whether a child would be sitting near them on a flight, especially one in which they might want to get some sleep. :dubious: You also have to believe that no one else on the plane would be awake and watching when one of the villains takes the daughter while her mother sleeps.

So you’re saying that E.T., who is also capable of levitating of small instruments with the deft precsion that he can assemble a communication device can’t simply ‘use the force’ (or whatever) to open the door? And besides, the door isn’t locked that tightly - because when he gets left behind, there’s a Big Mama type E.T. standing in the doorway looking down at him. (And why she didn’t do anything to help out her li’l ol’ E.T.-ling is puzzling as well.)

Nope you don’t,reread my post.

From Alien Vs Predator; Requiem…
Jeez, well, all of it, I guess.

This has never bothered me. Why would we assume the Excelsior is the only ship with equipment to catalog gaseous anomalies? To me, it would be like assuming only one car has a built-in speedometer or something of that nature. Every single ship in the fleet would probably encounter a gaseous anomaly at some point or another. It should be standard equipment.

Real world explanation: The script (it is online, I’ve read through to see the little changes made) had a scene which was cut in which Kirk takes the Klingons on a little tour and explains some low-level non security risk stuff to them – he mentions the Enterprise’s gaseous anomaly tracking system.

Sir Rhosis

What always made me wonder is why, when Marty was fading away, the picture wasn’t fading with him. If no one existed to have their picture taken, why was the picture taken at all?

So, Die Hard 2 is basically “24” after Hour 12 of the first series.

As others have pointed out, this isn’t really a plothole; in fact, the entire tragedy of Michael Corleone is that no matter what he tries to do to make himself and his family legitimate (which is also the desire of Vito), he’s still a Corleone; he’s still “family”. And it is his misfortune that after the shooting of Vito, he’s the only one of the sons who is really competent and level-headed to take charge of the situation and prevent it from spiraling out of control; his plan to dispatch Sollozzo and McClusky succeeds brilliantly, fragmenting the forces that would have aligned against the Corleone family and their desire to stay out of the drug business. Sonny is too much of a hot-head (which eventually gets him killed) and poor Fredo is just to witless to be trusted with even the most simple tasks. Michael, like his father, is a consummate businessman; it is his misfortune (as with his father) that the business he is drawn into and succeeds at is crime.

Since nobody has mentioned it yet, I’ll do it even though I’ll be the target for much invective for deriding such a revered film: In Casablanca, everybody is vying and scheming and fighting over these mythical “letters of transit, cannot be questioned or rescinded,” even though they turn out to be useful for little more than wrapping fish. They certainly aren’t going to prevent Major Strasser from detaining Lazlo and seeing that he “dies while escaping” or “commits suicide”. Given how much control the Germans seem to have in French Morocco, it’s not clear why they don’t just bundle Lazlo onto the aircraft and back to Berlin. Instead, Lazlo is allowed to wander about freely, going to Resistance meetings and urging the band to play “Les Marseilles” while his wife transparently carries on with Rick to her own ends.

Stranger

Well, it was a very nice rock wall.

My final point, unaddressed, still holds. A guy tries to kill him, but nobody thinks to stop him and see what all the fuss was about. That’s even if the guard buys that permit stuff.

Even aside from the difficulties that others have mentioned, suppose he does built a radio and successfuly radios Americans. Are they going to be able to show up and mount such an incredibly effective surprise attack on a heavily fortified tunnel system that his captors, knowing they are screwed, won’t have time to kill Tony before he can be rescued?

Not exactly a plot hole from Back to the Future 2 but I saw it recently and wondered why they decided to take Jennifer to the future? Doc later explains that he had to because she saw the time machine, but that doesn’t really make much sense. Seems like a needless risk to take her.

In addition to all the other reasons mentioned

part of Stark’s motivation here was to destroy the Stark Industries weapons cache that the Ten Rings had acquired.

I suspect it would have started fading once Marty disappeared, both because there was a reason for the picture to have been taken as long as he existed and because it was taken farther down the timeline than his birth date. It seems a logical extension of the way his brother and sister faded out of the picture in order.

Doc Brown: “Well, bring her along. This concerns her too.”

I’m not sure what, if anything, Doc thought she could contribute. Maybe he thought she had a right to know, since Marty, Jr. was going to be her kid, too. Maybe he just didn’t want to argue with Marty about it. Who knows? For all his brilliance, Doc was a few pickles short of a picnic.

In 19 years plus in the Army both fulltime and guard I have used AN/PVS-5, AN/PVS-6, AN/PVS-7 and AN/PVS-14 NVGs. I am well aquainted with them. The AN/PVS-7s that I used had a small infrared light. It was used to light up things close to you so you could read a map, not for lighting up a room. In pitch black conditions there was a very faint red light (like a little dot, not a cone of light) coming from the IR lamp which would have been a beacon for agent Starling. The infrared light was not used tactically since to anyone else wearing NVGs you would look like you had a spotlight on your head. Buffalo Bill was not using that type of equipment.

First, the serious scientific discussion of Back to the Future cracks me up.

Second,

In BTTF2, Doc says he brought her cause she’d seen the Time Machine and he didn’t want her throwing off the timeline by knowing about it. Hence he lured her into the time machine and instantly put her to sleep and zapped her memory of the event.

But, the tone with which he invites her along at the end of BTTF1 suggests this was a later decision by the sequel writers.

According to Wikipedia, Tommy Lee Jones’s character (a law enforcement officer) does. But then, given the context in the entry (trying to frighten Judd’s character’s villainous husband), he might be lying to get him to confess.

But still, you’re right; as far as Judd’s character goes, that plot point is okay. Heck, it’s okay to be used as a driving force for the plot (I think it would’ve made the movie even more suspenseful had it been played as “falsely condemned prisoner hears erroneous info about law; race against time to stop her before she acts on it and dooms herself”).

The trouble is that the film apparently gave no indication that they knew that the legal point was false.

As for E.T., well, maybe the aliens had already put up their shields by the time they were off the ground. That’s what the Star Trek ships would’ve done. :slight_smile:

I agree. Doc had kinda shown up pretty flustered, and then figured everyone ought to hop in and help out. As it turns out, of course, he figured it was better for her to take a nap, but at least she was out of the way for the duration and wouldn’t mess anything up.

In a documentary or commentary, I remember one of the writers saying that bringing Jennifer along was a decision they came to regret. The first movie was written to be self-contained, so they didn’t really think about what would happen after the ending. Once they got around to writing the sequel, they realized they wrote themselves into a corner and didn’t know what to do with Jennifer. I suppose it turned out all right in the end though.