[QUOTE=Sunspace]
I always thought it said “elb” and was at a loss to connect it to the Expos or baseball or anything (“Expo League Baseball”?). I never saw the stylised M until reading these posts.
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Yeah, I thought it was e.l.b. for Expos, Ligue de Baseball.
[QUOTE=matt_mcl]
Yeah, I thought it was e.l.b. for Expos, Ligue de Baseball.
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it is, also makes the m… like the MB for the milwaukee brewers forms a glove
[QUOTE=amarinth]
Well, when the father is John, and at least one grandfather is John, and an uncle on the mother’s side is John, and there are at least two other cousins named John, nicknames are useful.
And really, Jack/John is a much less weird nickname connection than Daisy/Margaret.
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Wait wait wait. So is there a Jack Kennedy? Or has every reference I have heard to “Jack Kennedy” over the past 23 years meant John Kennedy?
Because I have always thought Jack was just another of the family. I swear there are like 80 of those guys. John, Bobby, and Robert just to name a few… Bobby and Robert… EGADS!!!
How many popular Kennedys are there total again?
[QUOTE=Captain_C]
Wait wait wait. So is there a Jack Kennedy? Or has every reference I have heard to “Jack Kennedy” over the past 23 years meant John Kennedy?
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Yes, Jack Kennedy is how many people refer to JFK. For that matter, JFK junior was known as Jack-Jack in memorium of his father.
Bobby is Robert, dude.
[QUOTE=Struan]
All your baby teeth are replaced, and you get additional premolar ones too. Unless I’m misunderstanding here (which is likely).
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In which case, I’m a freak as I still have my baby molars.
[QUOTE=SkipMagic]
Personal insults are not allowed outside the Pit, Malacandra. Don’t do it again.
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[mode=Michael J. “Crocodile” Dundee]That’s not a personal insult, this is a personal insult…"[/mode]
thinks better of it
Good catch, dude. Good catch. The entire fabric of Western civilization nearly went into the toilet right there, but you caught it. I’ll stick to hijacking threads in order to snark on Christianity in future; I’d be on firmer ground there, obviously.
goes and sits on the naughty step
Add me to the roster of confused people here. If the “Norwegian wood” doesn’t refer to somethiung made of actual Wood from Norway, what dio you think it’s referring to? (Yes, I’m familiar with the song. I still think it’s referring to wood from Norway)
I’m not saying you’re wrong that it refers to something else. But, if so, I have no idea what that might be.
I can’t remember now which Beatles book I read this in, but I believe the explanation was that “Norwegian Wood” is a mainly British euphemisim for “getting some on the side.”
[QUOTE=amarinth]
Well, when the father is John, and at least one grandfather is John, and an uncle on the mother’s side is John, and there are at least two other cousins named John, nicknames are useful.
And really, Jack/John is a much less weird nickname connection than Daisy/Margaret.
I was embarassingly old (20-something) before I realized that the “La Jolla” (that I’d read about) was the same place as “Lahoya” (that I’d heard of) despite the fact I speak and read Spanish. (not well, but enough that it should have been obvious).
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Margaret/Daisy is not that odd a combination when you know the Marguerite (Margaret is a variation of this) is a common name for a daisy. Some of these nicknames have been around so long we rarely think of how they came to be so widely used.
I seem to recall seing Marguerite daisies used on a coat of arms to signify the name Marguerite or one of it spelling variants.
[QUOTE=Malacandra]
[mode=Michael J. “Crocodile” Dundee]That’s not a personal insult, this is a personal insult…"[/mode]
thinks better of it
Good catch, dude. Good catch. The entire fabric of Western civilization nearly went into the toilet right there, but you caught it. I’ll stick to hijacking threads in order to snark on Christianity in future; I’d be on firmer ground there, obviously.
goes and sits on the naughty step
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Crocodile Dundee is named Michael?
[QUOTE=amarinth]
And really, Jack/John is a much less weird nickname connection than Daisy/Margaret.
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Not so weird when you realise that the French word for daisy is “marguerite”. My high school French teacher wanted to call her daughter Marguerite, but her mother nixed it on the grounds that it was such a common flower!
In this case, I think it’s more appropriate to say that they’ve been around so long that most people have no idea how they came about. It’s not as if a lot of us are slapping our foreheads , thinking, “Of Course! The Margaret Daisy!” I’ve never even heard of that flower.
In fact, truth be told, I never realized that “Daisy” was a nickname for “Margaret”.
“Margaret” has so many variants: Marjorie, Margot, Maggie, Meg, Megan, Peggy, Maisie, Rita… I didn’t know about “Daisy” though.
[QUOTE=Malacandra]
[mode=Michael J. “Crocodile” Dundee]That’s not a personal insult, this is a personal insult…"[/mode]
thinks better of it
Good catch, dude. Good catch. The entire fabric of Western civilization nearly went into the toilet right there, but you caught it. I’ll stick to hijacking threads in order to snark on Christianity in future; I’d be on firmer ground there, obviously.
goes and sits on the naughty step
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Come on. Yes, he hijacked the thread, but this is MPSIMS. And I like it to be clean of insults, thankyewverymuch. There are other ways to teach him a lesson.
In other news, I finally learned why Daisy is short for Margaret!
[QUOTE=Telperien]
Crocodile Dundee is named Michael?
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He sure is. Michael J. when he’s being really formal, Mick to his mates, “Crocodile” to the tourists.
takes down atlas
studies Pacific archipelago with magnifying glass
finds The Island Of People That Care
smiles and replaces atlas
I like MPSIMS to be clean of persons who feel it necessary to barge into a thread of amusing anecdotes about their own ignorance in order to go “Xians are teh suxx0rs!!111!!one!”, so it looks like we’re both SOL, huh? 
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]
Yes, Jack Kennedy is how many people refer to JFK. For that matter, JFK junior was known as Jack-Jack in memorium of his father.
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uh, you sure?
He’s was called John-John, not Jack-Jack and he was called such well before his father died. It was a nickname given to him by the press – his family did not use it.
Jack/John is not uncommon, even to this day. In fact, I assume a Jack is really John just as I would assume a Betty or Beth is Elizabeth.
Finally, yeah, uh Robert and Bobby were the same person. John F. “Jack” Kennedy had three brothers:
older: Joe, Jr. - died during WWII
younger: Robert F. “Bobby” Kennedy and Edward M. “Teddy” or “Ted” Kennedy
Thanks, dear. Having learned my one thing for the day, I can now go back to bed. Well, if not for this pesky job, anyway.
I’m actually surprised it took that many pages before someone made such a post about religion. I was expecting it on the first page. However, I’m still not over the pineapple thing, so that’s all the comment I can make. I need to buy a pineapple and plant it now. Growing evil fruits at home is fun.
[QUOTE=Malacandra]
takes down atlas
studies Pacific archipelago with magnifying glass
finds The Island Of People That Care
smiles and replaces atlas
I like MPSIMS to be clean of persons who feel it necessary to barge into a thread of amusing anecdotes about their own ignorance in order to go “Xians are teh suxx0rs!!111!!one!”, so it looks like we’re both SOL, huh?
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Did I say you can’t tell him to quit it? As a matter of fact I like it to be clean of that stuff, too. But that stuff is less jarring.
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]
JFK junior was known as Jack-Jack in memoriam of his father.
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Funny, I never heard that until now, although I recall many references to John-John.
One reason Jack was perpetuated as a nickname for the president was that his wife was Jacqueline, so “Jack and Jackie” made a cute couple of names.
Incidentally, what’s Ted Kennedy’s given first name?
No, not Theodore – it’s Edward.
ETA: Darn, I see that whole bean beat me to the punch!