“In fact, you have yourself shown examples where you have personally alienated the rights of other people. And there’s no shortage of cases throughout history where people have been deprived of life, liberty, and pretty much any other ‘natural’ right you have claimed. This includes the Americans in the Revolution. Their rights were alienated, which is why they revolted. It’s nice rhetoric to claim otherwise but even Jefferson understood the reality.”
cite please?
marcmcroy:
“In fact, you have yourself shown examples where you have personally alienated the rights of other people. And there’s no shortage of cases throughout history where people have been deprived of life, liberty, and pretty much any other ‘natural’ right you have claimed. This includes the Americans in the Revolution. Their rights were alienated, which is why they revolted. It’s nice rhetoric to claim otherwise but even Jefferson understood the reality.”
cite please?
The Holocaust, Jim Crow laws.
Too funny .. You saw church, and dismissed the rest . I gave you the answer to every detail you asked for cite on . Including court cases and statutes reaffirming such. All you had to do was look and see.
Well I say to most. Here
You said that I have personally alienated, ..no poster, your governments (that you put faith in) did those attrocities, not me.
GIGObuster:
And, they are cute when they do not realize that they are helping the opponent’s position more than theirs. For Jefferson and other Deistic founding fathers, their god was better than the god of the bible.
My God’s better cause he eats Ken-L-Ration.
marcmcroy:
“In fact, you have yourself shown examples where you have personally alienated the rights of other people.** And there’s no shortage of cases throughout history where people have been deprived of life, liberty, and pretty much any other ‘natural’ right you have claimed.** This includes the Americans in the Revolution. Their rights were alienated, which is why they revolted. It’s nice rhetoric to claim otherwise but even Jefferson understood the reality.”
cite please?
This is what I was responding to. I thought that’s what you wanted a cite for.
Robb
June 29, 2013, 5:14pm
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marcmcroy:
Wow, straw arguments here too, come on mate.
here
Please don’t take legal advice from works of fiction.
I am not an advocate of the RED pill or the Blue pill,eyes .
How about someone on the bar?
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wow,just saying
“you have yourself shown examples where you have personally alienated the rights of other people.”
corrected, cite please?
Great_Antibob:
As we have repeatedly pointed out: what natural rights?
You claim they exist. Where’s your evidence they do and what makes them inalienable?
In fact, you have yourself shown examples where you have personally alienated the rights of other people. And there’s no shortage of cases throughout history where people have been deprived of life, liberty, and pretty much any other ‘natural’ right you have claimed. This includes the Americans in the Revolution. Their rights were alienated, which is why they revolted. It’s nice rhetoric to claim otherwise but even Jefferson understood the reality.
Feel free to go off on another digression, but you have never satisfactorily answered this fundamental question. Based on your other posts in this thread, it’s clear you won’t. But I might as well remind any looky-loos of this fact.
Not against the rules at all. But the folks who use big red letters tend not to be the ones who are entirely sane. Or rational. Or making a good point in any way. It’s not really a good sign for you.
Self evident..HERE
marcmcroy:
Self evident..HERE
READ and Learn. . Get back to us when you’re ready for rational dialogue.
No, I found bad legal advice and bullshit masquerading as history (as expected).
marcmcroy:
Self evident..HERE
Now quote a document of law that says the same thing.
Robb
June 29, 2013, 7:53pm
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Thank you, but I understand how the legal system works in the US. What I don’t understand is how you think it works.
We’ve all seen the cartoons . Right?this right?
Actually, in this case, he has:SDMB registration agreement
Ha! Prove it.
Does the fringe match the drapes, at least?
People who think Youtube videos are arguments/evidence aren’t worth engaging, as they lack even the most fundamental debating skills.
marcmcroy:
Black’s law does have its root in Latin, I know Latin better that Black’s
“persona” (Latin) or “prosopon” (πρόσωπον: Greek) originally referred to the masks worn by actors on stage. The various masks represented the various “personae” in the stage play.[1]here
Black’s is a dictionary of english as it is used in legal documents, so that when someone like me who is writing a memo [legal document] whomever reads the end product can understand exactly how I am using a specific word. Frex, this is what it has to say about admiralty law …
ADMIRALTY
A court exercising jurisdiction over maritime causes, both civil and criminal, and marine affairs, commerce and navigation, controversies arising out of acts done upon or relating to the sea, and over questions of prize. Also, the system of jurisprudence relating to and growing out of the jurisdiction and practice of the admiralty courts. In English law. The executive department of state which presides over the naval forces of the kingdom. The normal head is the lord high admiral, but in practice the functions of the great office are discharged by several commissioners, of whom one is the chief, and is called the “First Lord.” He is assisted by other lords and by various secretaries. Also the court of the admiral. The building where the lords of the admiralty transact business. In American law. A tribunal exercising jurisdiction over all maritime contracts, torts, injuries, or offenses. 2 Pars. Mar. Law, 008; New England Marine Ins. Co. v. Dunham, 11 Wall. 1, 23, 20 L. Ed. 90; De Lovio v. Boit, 2 Call. 398, Fed. Cas. No. 3,77(5; The Belfast v. Boon. 7 Wall. 024, 19 L. Ed. 200; Ex parte Eastou, 95 U. S. 08, 72, 24 L. Ed. 373.
Law Dictionary: A Information and Definitions from Black’s Law Dictionary Category: <span>A</span>
Please note it is specific to maritime and has absolutely nothing to do with anything on land unless it specifically is about boats, cargos, waterborn personnel … So if I make a reference to admiralty law, the person reading my memo knows it is something to do with waterborn happenings, not some person deluding themself there is a magic word that makes the law not apply to themself.