Trading Spaces 3/15, or What Have You Done with the Real Frank?

Doug and Frank in Scottsdale, AZ. I think this is the first time where the homes have not been right next to each other. It looks like the HO’s had some acreage.

Doug monopolized all of Ty’s time again (see the Route 66 in the kid’s bedroom episode) building that dividing wall. I still don’t know if I liked it or not. Certainly, the room was huge and needed some intimacy, but I think that could have been accomplished another way without chopping the room in half. Perhaps a half wall with some sheer draperies? The colors seemed in line with what the HO’s like, but what is up with stealing furniture from the rest of the house? Don’t people need the furniture in that room?

I guess it turned out all right. I did catch not one but two references to the Crying Pam episode…one about something being used as firewood, and the HO saying she likes most of Doug’s designs, even if some people don’t. Either Doug is still bitter or they’re still getting mileage out of that one.

Frank…I think you redeemed yourself from that hideous kid’s room last week (think scary monkey desk and graffitti). It was on par with a Vern’s room with nary a country cliche in sight. I loved how he turned those trash cans into night stands, the purple was a lovely color, and the fabric draped above the headboard was very elegant. It was a beautiful room.

Did anyone catch the preview for next week’s show? I’m sure it was staged, but it looks like a HO finally goes postal. She said she didn’t like brown, Laurie paints the room brown, and the HO physically attacks her friend after she sees her room. Hmmmmm…

I just saw that episode… Frank’s room was okay, but always with the business! I wanted to chuck all those stupid pillows out the window, the ruined the look of the bed.

I’m not sure if its the way the paint appeared on TV, but for some reason I did NOT like the particular mix of blues and purples. None of them seemed to match or complement… they were too close together in tone (I think). Also, I found the bedspread perfectly hideous. I thought his idea to use the white sheer fabric to lighten up the curtains was a good one. I disagree on the headboard swag thing. It seemed misplaced, too high above the bed, and the fabric didn’t match the curtains in color or texture or style. Seemed like something he added cause he can’t help fussing up a room.

Doug’s room was very nice and the HO’s really loved it. I thought the red paint was going to be too much, but it ended up looking pretty good against the white sofa. I guess this design was just more my taste with the geometric design theme. Separating the room WAS a really drastic choice but there was a lot of wasted space in the original room. Basically, I thought Doug did an unusually good job on some risky choices.

All I saw was the reveal, but I did tape it (my son’s Boy Scout banquet was last night), so I’ll watch it later today sometime and be back to snark. I mean comment.

I didn’t quite get the idea behind dividing the room, but maybe after I watch the whole thing, I’ll understand.
I didn’t really like those big paintings. What were they, broomsticks? I guess I have to see the whole thing.

PS, the paintings were something the homeowners already owned. They had 3 (possibly 4) all lined up in another room of the house. I believe they were tulips (Doug changes their orientation when he hung them).

Really liked Frank’s room in this episode. No complaints.

Thought it was ridiculous that Doug went over budget and “stole” furniture (couch, armoir) from other parts of the house.

On the other hand, immediately before this episode was a Doug-Hilda episode (Arlington: First Road) where Hilda painted the HO’s bedroom bright blue and then graffitied white swirlies on the bed covers and walls, citing a Tiffany’s box as her inspiration. Really, after that mess, anything was attractive and inspiring!

The 8p show was a repeat. It was the Dreadful Duo (with a spare, Kia, now available) with Hildi’s god-awful graffitti on the wall and Doug throwing a huge fit because the HO’s wouldn’t let them touch the floor. It sounded like he had a good idea and was just going to enhance the hardwood, but the HO pulled a “Don’t touch my fireplace” a la Crying Pam and Doug threw a fit and refused to work with them, even giving instructions via PaigeCam. Horribly unprofessional of him, if you ask me.

both rooms looked great.

the white couch looked awesome against that wall. i like the fact that if one person is having a bit of a restless, sleepless night, they can scurry around the wall and do something else and not disturb the other.

frank’s room is gorgeous! i’m not a purple person but i loved the look. very, very, comfortable room to relax and sleep in. great job.

It was the best pair of rooms I’ve seen. Doug’s design seemd to work, but I’m suprised the HO didn’t freak over him moving the paintings. Frank’s room was gourgeous, now moi wabt’s to paint our room purple. (big suprise) :slight_smile:

The 8pm rerun, however, was horriffic. Hilde’s “Tiffany” room was the worst. I think they paid off the HOs to act as if they liked it.

Three.

It annoys me that in the rules it says, IIRC, that if you want something not touched then remove it from the room. I don’t see how that makes it okay for Doug to move three major pieces of furniture and two major pieces of artwork out of the rest of the house. He’s supposed to come up with a design for $1,000, isn’t stealing important pieces from the rest of the house a gross violation of the rules? Replacing that furniture and art will be expensive, so the price tag will end up being way over $1,000. I really liked the room otherwise. But the home owners in a way got a net zero benefit: new bedroom, but the living room was removed.

I liked the painted ceiling in Frank’s room. Every episode I’ve seen with a painted ceiling has really impressed me. I think I really like the effect. I’d like to see it in person.

Bonus: Paige’s butt.

Yeah, I’ve never understood that either. What if you removed something, and put it in another room, and the designer went and “found” it and painted it or something? I wonder if there’s a space in the contract where you list the things that “May Not Be Touched!”
And I hate when they steal furniture from other rooms. I’d be PO’d if I came back and found my living room furniture in the bedroom like that.

That said, I liked the room. Well, sort of…I didn’t like the tulip paintings sideways. It made them look like brooms. The HO did make a quick comment about ordering two more. I don’t know if she was serious or snide. And I like to lay in bed at night and watch TV. Was the TV in the armoire on the other side of the wall? I liked the idea of the separate sitting area, but I like to be able to watch TV from the bed.
That was one big honkin’ bedroom.

I liked the other room … sort of. I like blue, so I liked the wall color, but not the purpley drapey thing. I hate when they do tiny little nightstands that only hold a small decorative lamp. Where are you supposed to put your alarm clock, and a box of tissues and your glasses and your book?

I was just impressed that Frank didn’t do any faux finishes or kitschy stuff. I wonder if he’s feeling a bit insecure after the monkey desk/graffitti disaster?

Not bad overall.

Doug was in a bit of a bind to begin with as that stupid bedroom was like an aircraft hanger. The builder should have been shot. It was basically a 2 for 1 sized room, so Doug was going to have some budget issues. I liked the idea of the mid-sized wall to break up that freak show of a room. Unfortunately, it sucked up way too much budget, so for the +1 room, Doug had to borrow stuff- lots of stuff. Overall, the colors and the design had the right idea, but the room was simply too big to do it for a $1000. The final execution of the design plan seemed to be a bit off.

Frank did another nice bedroom. Whenever Frank goes for “romance” he normally does a stunning bedroom. I think it has to do with his eye for color and texture. While stereotyped as the “country” designer, Frank has done plenty of non-country rooms. I think though, if the homeowners like that style, Frank gets stuck doing it. Can you see Hildy doing country-- me neither. :smiley:

For the 8PM repeat, I had forgotten how horrible those homeowners were. They complained the entire time. The worst thing was, by 8:45 I hated them quite completely, and was evilly chuckling at the thought of them seeing Hildy’s Tiffany Box disaster. Of course those 2 chowerheads liked it. The funny thing was, Doug was right on every single issue, including the floor. Actually, IMHO, Doug is really good with wood stains. Anyway, the episode gave us a Hall of Shame level room (hildy’s) and HO’s.

Next week’s preview looked, ummm, interesting . . .

ivylass, I agree with you about Doug being a real bitch in that episode. I mentioned my thoughts to my wife as we were watching it but she kind of agreed with him. The homeowners were kind of whiney about his choices and all, but he was completely unwilling to listen to their thoughts. And his crap about the floor was just too much.

Hildy’s Tiffany room. Ugh. I can not for the life of me believe they actually liked it. Gawd was it hidious.
As for Frank’s “arabian” room, I liked it. My wife said it needed more red, and inclined to agree. I also think the bed would have been better if he had actually done the whole drapey thing all around it instead of just at the head.

Still, whatever.

The repeat 8pm episode with Doug and his “tantrum” was so obviously faked, I enjoyed for what it was…total camp. I took it as a total tongue-in-cheek jab, a redux of the Crying Pam episode. I don’t think that Doug ever intended to do anything to the floor, he was totally yanking the HO’s chains, and the whole setup with him giving instruction on the PaigeCam and then the HO’s coming to the backyard where Doug is reclining with the paper to beg him for his assistance…those were totally staged. Every single minute.

“Life Unscripted” my lily-white ass. :smiley:

I loved Frank’s bedroom, but thank Jeebus the HO stopped him from gluing peacock feathers to the lamps! That’s one of my big complaints with Frank, that he always has to go overboard with the gewgaws and the gimgrackery. The lamps would have been just fine even without the beadwork but those I could deal with. I was sort of distracted at the start of the ep so I didn’t understand what was going on with the wall in Doug’s room. The tulips I thought were ugly no matter what way they were pointing. There’s really nothing wrong with the occasional big blank wall. I’d have liked the tulips to have been out of there.

Re “stealing” furniture from other rooms: I don’t have a problem with it as long as it’s not to the level of Kia’s little shopping excursion with freakin’ laundry baskets! Sometimes people have too much furniture in other rooms and moving a piece in can relive the congestion in that room as well as supplement the redone room.

I liked the color of Hildi’s room from the repeat but lordy did I hate the grafitti! The idea of the ribbon on the box was nice, but could we maybe think about doing a few gentle swirls or curves, or even bands of the white like an actual ribbon might look? Ah well, I don’t have to live in it.

Re: the old episode:

Doug’s temper tantrum was ridiculous, but at the same time, the idea the homeowners were rebelling against was a good one.

Hildy’s swirls looked really cool on the bedding but ridiculous on the wall. The lazy HOs’ decision to do huge swirls on the wall had a lot to do with that, though. If they’d done the walls similar to the bedding, with smaller, tighter twists, they’d have looked better. Still would have been too much, but at least not incredibly ugly.

re: the new episode:

Frank’s room was better than the usual Frank festival of gawgads. But the pillows, man, save some pillows for the rest of the world.

Doug’s room was amazing. Yes he stole some things from the rest of the house, but he didn’t do anything to those things - it’ll take all of ten minutes to put them back where they came from, and it gave the homeowners an idea of what really needs to go in the space, so they can go shopping and get it. The room was an absolute stunner when he was finished with it. Incredibly well done.

Really liked Frank’s room. I was afraid it would be too dark, with all the blue and purple, but it was really elegant. Loved the trashcan side tables.

Doug’s room looked good too, but I can’t figure out where all his money went. First of all, did he use MDF for the walls? What for? Why not use gypsum board/sheetrock which would be a lot cheaper. I can’t believe he spent $1000 on wood for that wall, paint, and the bed linens, basically. He should have at least bought them a new sofa and not steal it from the living room. Unfortunately he used so much of Ty’s time with the wall he couldn’t really have built anything else.

Doug’s room was beautiful but went completely contrary to the spirit of the show, I think, by stealing so much furniture from elsewhere. You’ve not transformed my room if all you’ve done is scavenged stuff from the rest of my home. Boo, hiss on that, and on monopolizing Ty and his budget by building such a huge wall when the same effect could’ve been had in a different way with less money and less effort.

Frank’s room was great to me in the main, but fell apart on the details. The pillows were too much. The lampshades were too much. The new TV cabinet/dresser combo looked odd with the white paint on the sides. The white stood out too much.

But the draperies were beautiful, the fabric headboard/canopy detail was gorgeous and romantic and the color scheme was terrific. The tops of the trashcan tables were too small, but otherwise the tables were great. I would’ve accepted that room with utter glee, then done some minor changes to those details.

Doug’s room, though, I would’ve been up in arms over. He left those homeowners with one of two crap choices: live with an empty room elsewhere or ante up several hundred dollars to replace the sofa and armoire in one of the rooms.

It’s been said time and time again – it’s one thing to leave the homeowners with a need to pay large amounts of money to undo stuff they hate, it’s another thing to leave them needing to pay large amounts of money to fix things which shouldn’t have been done at all like leaving a room devoid of needed furniture or doing damage or creating safety hazards like the entire dangerous and stupid hay-wall room or Crying Pam’s fireplace surround which ruined her carpet and ceiling thanks to its shoddy installation. IMO, that’s sabotage, and somehow, it’s almost always at the hand of the “designers” whose backgrounds have nothing to do with professional interior design at all - Hildy, Doug or Kia.

They did address that, quickly.
Using drywall (sheetrock, gypsum) is messy and would have taken too long. It can be very messy to clean up after.
The joint compound (spackling) has to dry for a certain period of time (24 hours, maybe?) and then has to be primed before painting, so time was a big factor, too.

It’s also lighter, and since it looked to me like that wall wasn’t really attached to anything (unless it was screwed to the floor), maybe they wanted the extra weight of the wood to help hold it in place.

My husband and I re-did our basement, putting up drywall over cinderblock walls, and the dust from sanding the spackling was just incredible. It was all over the house, and we had even put up plastic sheeting at the basement doorway. It’s really hard to clean up and is gritty and will scratch other furniture if you’re not careful.

Thanks, BiblioCat, I missed that explanation. Not that it excuses Doug from using most of his budget on a wall so that he has to take furniture and art from elsewhere in the house. (The sofa did look good there, though).