Unumondo said:
Oh I think as a Christian you should know Jesus would forgive it now wouldn’t he?
:smack: C’mon… ATLANTA burns… TARA doesn’t.
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But the Bible is totally historically accurate!
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I’ll be seeing the movie, of course, because I see everything, but I have a side comment after viewing the trailer: What the heck is it with Mel Gibson and suffering? Seems like half the movies he’s in, he makes a point of letting his character get beat within a pint of blood to death: staggering around in Mad Max II after the auto wreck, tortured in Lethal Weapon, crucified in Braveheart, and so on. Does the guy have a fetish for writhing around and screaming, or what?
Then send out for some pillars and Cecil B. DeMille
He could die happily ever after…–Bob Dylan
:rolleyes:
I’m the opposite: I think he takes way too many liberties with historical characters. BRAVEHEART, while compelling, was almost entirely fiction (there really was a William Wallace and he really was Scottish and that’s about where it ends; THE PATRIOT made you wonder if he’d ever actually heard of the American Revolution other than as a plot device, etc.). OTOH, I think Gibson’s a tool and this may jaundice my perception.
Re: historical inaccuracies- my understanding is that crucifixion victims carried the cross-bar only and that the cross poles were left stationary. (It would make a lot more sense- it takes a long time to balance and hoist a cross but not as much to hoist somebody up the beam.) Also, crucifixion victims were crucified naked.
What is the significance of the snake?
I would have assumed it was Satan but I understand that Satan is being portrayed as a woman in this film. Make of that what you will.
I gather this one has Jesus descending into hell? Otherwise, I don’t remember Satan making a cameo in the last 12 hours (though if he did, I think he should have been cast by Jackie Mason).
Jackie Mason as Satan! Good choice. My god, but I hate that man. No real reason, just can not stand the guy.
My first thought was Satan, also. Perhaps the snake is symbolizing sin?
I think if I were going to symbolize Satan with an animal, I’d cast either a poodle. Snakes, while icky, have some redeeming value (eating rodents, good TV shows, etc.), while poodles are just melted down concentrated evil.
I’m not sure how other branches choose to read Genesis 3:15, but Catholic tradition holds that:
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
means the ultimate seed is Jesus, and he will be the one to crush the serpent’s evil. They claim its the earliest prophecy in the Bible.
My guess is that’s what Gibson was going for in that particular scene. Or at least in the tidbit that I saw; it might mean something else once the film is viewed in its entirety.
Mel Gibson wouldn’t know “historical accuracy” if it bit him in the butt.
Humfph!
No, the novel and the movie Gone With the Wind both depict an earlier and smaller event, the burning of the Atlanta Depot, which happened two and a half months before the burning of Atlanta.
No one said “historical accuracy.” The term used was “dignity and honor.” You could, of course, argue that historical inaccuracy is itself disrespectful.
But you’d be wrong.