Lightsabers? In Tron? Were we watching the same movie?
The chunk of metal was the lightcycle steering wheel.
Yes, it was. But in the bar fight, for instance, people are fighting with not only their discs but also a glowing light in the shape of a sword. I could not tell if it was solid absent the light or not, but it looked enough like a light saber that I won’t argue otherwise if people call it that.
I, like others, also wondered how the army CLU was preparing could have done much damage when it got into the real world. But 10,000 or more soldiers, even unarmed, would still be able to cause some damage when they appear in an unexpected location. They may have just been able to murder several hundred surprised people in their sleep, but movies have been made about less.
What would have been more damaging (in terms of a threat to society) is if some of them had been trained as hackers. But I doubt that CLU was flexible enough to allow a temporary increase in imperfection in order to achieve a long-term goal, and the programs that were repurposed did not seem to have the freedom of action required to make a good hacker.
I saw this at the weekend and I absolutely loved it, more than I was expecting to in fact. I normally find by-the-numbers action films extremely tedious, but Tron Legacy for me is all about the visual/audio fusion. There are shots in that film that literally made me gasp with pleasure, for instance the ones with CLU reclining during the games. Basically I really dig the aesthetics, and they didn’t get old for me at all - I felt like I could start re-watching the film straight away (though skip the tedious ‘real-world’ drivel at the beginning please).
Basically it’s one of the very few films where I don’t care that the plot is ridiculous and the script is rubbish. I loved the experience, though I can equally see why someone with different tastes would hate it. I know my fiancee would.
As for the dodgy CLU effects, I can give them a pass on this. He’s an AI created in Bridge’s image, so I have no problem with him falling into the uncanny valley in the Grid. It works. The problem was using the same effect for the first shot of the movie, in the real world, where it looks absolutely terrible.
This was my first 3d Film. I’ve spent quite a bit of time on a racetrack in various cars and Karts…the light cycle sequence had me on the edge of my seat, grinning from ear to ear, with my heart rate up where it normally is when I’m on track. That was worth the price of admission all by itself.
Did anyone else attending the original Tron in the theater get handed a glossary sheet of computer terms used in the movie? I remember thinking it was a nice touch, though unnecessary since I knew all of them thanks to my experience with the Apple II+. It would be interesting to see one again, but I expect that would be a hard collectible to find.
lost a much longer post in a computer crash…ironic really
Watched this movie today and enjoyed it but it did raise a couple of questions, apologies if these have been answered already but haven’t had a chance to read the entire thread yet.
How long was Flynn Senior trapped in the Grid subjective time, if I recall the first movie the entire in-world story only lasted for an instant in the real world, if so he must have been in there a very long time…
How was Flynn Junior still flesh and blood in the Tron world? Is Quorra still code-based in the real world?
Why were the ISO’s in general and Quorra in particular so important? What was it about them that was supposed to result in a revolution in understanding?
Why did CLU through away an obvious advantage by revealing to Flynn Junior that he wasn’t his dad, surely that was something he could have played upon to get what he wanted?
What exactly was the purpose of the disks everyone had, they seemed to function as a sort of external memory but it didn’t seem to have much adverse effect for people temporarily or even permenantly losing them?
I wonder what effect backing the Grid up onto a memory card would have for the inhabitants of that society.
Fun movie though.
Quorra was a self-emergent program: no human wrote her or the other Iso’s.
As far as how she could beam out: I don’t think the movie is intended to withstand intense scrutiny. There are plot holes you can drive Sark’s cruiser through.
You’ve had a year.
But getting to your questions… I honestly don’t think a single one of them has any sort of an answer. Per the first movie, the discs are meant to be some sort of ID, but that doesn’t really explain why they use them as weapons. The movie’s mythology isn’t really thought out very well. The ISOs bugged me in particular, because when Flynn tries to describe what makes them so special, he essentially describes every single “program” that’s part of the grid. They’re all sentient lifeforms that sprang into existence out of nowhere! Yeah, okay, technically that guy is really someone’s spreadsheet program, but nobody coded Microsoft Excel to feel existential angst.* The idea that it spontaneously figured out how to do that on its own is every bit as miraculous as the ISOs.
Also, re: the memory card, there’s a PC game that came out a few years back called Tron 2.0. You have an inventory of programs that you can equip - armor, weapons, better jumping, better hacking, things like that. How many of them you can equip depends on how much memory the computer you’re currently in has. At one point, you get downloaded into someone’s PDA, and only have enough memory to equip a single weapon. Kind of a cool invocation of the standard “lose all your stuff” level that shows up in a lot of FPS.
[sub]*Causing existential angst, on the other hand, seems to have been a likely goal.[/sub]
I’ve been trying to think of a reply to that alluding to subjective time but I’m not clever enough to come up with one. Seriously though apart from the title I’ve remained as unspoiled as possible before watching the movie (when it came down enough in price to justify buying), so I’m only reading threads about it now.
Thanks for the answers btw and Unintentionally Blank.
Furthermore, sentient, sapient beings that arose without human intervention wouldn’t revolutionize anything at all, because we already have nearly seven billion of those. Sentient, sapient beings created directly by humans, though, like all of the “normal” programs in the Grid, those are something else again.
I got the Blu-ray package that also included the original Tron, and watched them both in one night.
I was surprised by how bad the original movie was. I loved it when it first came out, but other than looking kind of cool; it’s really a terrible movie.
I was, then, not surprised to find that I thought the same thing about Tron: Legacy. It looked great, but was really a terrible movie.
And the looking great thing got boring quickly for me, as it did for others who’ve posted here. I’ve owned the Blu-ray for a few months now, and even ripped it for my iPad, but I’ve never watched more than 3-4 minutes of it at a time since, and usually it’s just to show someone else how good the iPad’s screen looks when watching movies.