Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event [now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025]

That and there aren’t many posters “happy” to see him murdered.

They just aren’t sad or pretending to be sad over it.

And fuck you if you think those are remotely the same thing or reason to tar people broadly with the same brush

Exactly. The fascists are moving their private military into cities. There was always going to be a series of incidents that gave them whatever thin justification their followers still need to declare a national emergency. If not this, then anything else, or they’d make something up. But absent Charlie getting neck blasted here, the end result would not change.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Because they want the publicity. To get in Daddy Trump’s good graces.

Even if the shooter is a guy?

Deleted, issue explicated above.

Learn to read. No one here has written that they’re happy he was murdered.

I, for one, aren’t happy.

I just don’t care.

I mean, I care about the fallout. But my outrage and angst is reserved for people like the kids in Colorado who were shot at school today.

Kirk? It’s just karma, is all.

It shows how ignorant I am of politics that until this new I don’t ever remember hearing of the man.

I had never heard of him either. I often find it curious what sorts of things different people assume others ought to know.

No idea what “the liberal channels on YouTube” are, and have no interest in finding out.

David who?

I’m curious why you would disdain such channels unless you were not a Liberal yourself (not saying you are or are not; I don’t know).

David Pakman has one of those channels.

I can understand people who are not following politics not knowing of him, but this was originally in P&E.

I’ve never heard of David Pakman.

Maybe we can claim that this “shooting” is all a hoax to distract from the Epstein files. Alex Jones would want it that way.

You’re missing the claim by the right wing that Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked by a crazed man with a hammer because they were engaged in a gay lover’s quarrel.

As for that attack and Charlie Kirk? Let’s see if he took it seriously…

PSA: No one cares who you have or have not heard of.

Someone posted it was good for his children that he was dead.

David Pakman doesn’t contribute anything of value to society either. He’s not evil, but he’s just schlock political newstertainment.

That was rude. I have never heard of David Pakman, either (but nor do I “disdain” whatever it is).

The fact that several Dopers who are clearly well informed about many things don’t know about someone, while others find that surprising, is itself interesting – and we find this out partly through the data points of someone saying “I’ve never heard of X.”

I wouldn’t have heard of Charlie Kirk if my teenage son hadn’t told me about him, for example. And I do the Saturday NY Times crossword puzzle in twenty minutes, so there. :slight_smile:

Oh, and I’m very liberal. But my YouTube channels tend toward Rick Beato and MentourPilot.

Tell that to the guy in post 183.