I consider myself rather politically aware, and I’ve never heard of him.
The thing is, you can’t keep up with everything now. It’s like being caught inside a swarm of insects of all sizes-- from giant grasshoppers to the tiniest gnats, and they’re all coming at you from all directions, buzzing, biting, stinging, as well as getting under your skin.
I don’t subscribe to him. A lot of these guys are not succinct, and they all cover the same stuff, so you gotta choose. I think Pakman is okay, a bit annoying at times.
I just did a thread search and couldn’t find it.
Post numbers are all different for different people depending on who you have in Ignore. But I assume on your end post 183 is one of mine, in which case, I assure you that mlid surprise =!= caring.
Boo fucking hoo.
Did you know him? Are you in mourning?
He was going to raise his daughter to never seek an education or a life of her own. To have no self esteem independent of a man’s approval. He spread that message to lots of girls.
He was an abusive man.
His kids might turn out better without him.
So Kirk held no political office, but federal flags must be flown at half mast until Sunday evening for trump’s booster?
How about instead we all give our thoughts and prayers.
Fly Pride flags at full mast instead.
I don’t follow Pakman either, but he has one of the the larger sub counts. As you note, most people are just gonna follow one or two of those guys, so it’s not like his 3 million are all the same people as the next creator’s 2 million or whatever.
^Correct.
I highly doubt that. Is Cadance Owen a woman with no education or life of her own, no self esteem independent of a man’s approval? Is Ivanka? Is Tiffany? It’s a rules for thee but not for me situation.
I agree with this. There’s a good chance that he will achieve things in death that he never could’ve otherwise dreamed of in his bitter, pathetic life. In a way, Charlie Kirk won today.
This guy who (per wiki) dropped out of college after a semester or two, and then railed about college textbooks’ “liberal bias”?
I’m reminded of Carney, the Simpsons bully still in grade school as an adult: “Stupid school, doesn’t know how to teach me!”
Who griped that he didn’t get into West Point because “his spot” went to a “less-qualified candidate of a different gender and a different persuasion”.
Like West Point called to tell him who took “his spot”.
Two weeks ago, Kirk had some sage advice for Taylor Swift, which he expressed on his streaming show, The Charlie Kirk Show.
But maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has been so, just, kind of annoyingly liberal over the last couple of years is that she’s not yet married and she doesn’t have children.
And
Taylor Swift might go from a cat lady to a JD Vance supporter, and I think we should celebrate that. I think that Taylor Swift having two or three children – she should have more children than she has houses.
And
All kidding and sarcasm aside, this is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.
Kash should be checking the membership database of the Swifties.
Link to Media Matters
WTF! Is this really a thing?
ETA: Just Googled this and I’m floored. I guess Kirk’s worthy since he never got himself captured by the North Vietnamese.
I"m not missing that point. I’m waiting for it to be advanced in this case. Because that’s obviously why people try to assassinate political types, so it should be at least mentioned by those same GOPers.
Hakeem Jeffries did so:
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries added that his “thoughts and prayers are with Charlie Kirk and his family.”
Or, people who think they can bully and terrorize women, transgender people, immigrants, etc will think twice before they go out harming people. These people are accustomed to being abusive and cruel and the worst thing that happens is liberals say ‘maybe if we were nicer to these people, they wouldn’t be so mean to us’
There’s no telling how this will end up. We can’t know yet if the oppression will get worse or better.
We are not a society where the majority hold all the power and they oppress the minority. The oppressors and the oppressed are roughly equally powerful. This isn’t Nazi Germany where the Jews made up 1% of the country, or the deep south where black people had zero political, social or financial power.
If we were in a situation where the oppressors had the majority and all the social power, there will be massive retaliation. But we aren’t in that situation right now. There is a possibility the oppressors start to say ‘our actions are starting to have negative consequences for us, maybe we should pull back’.
When FDR started planning to pack the supreme court, it made the supreme court reconsider constantly overruling everything he did. When politicians face primaries, they change their behavior.
I’d just like to say that Charlie Kirk’s pronouns are now “was, were”
I understand the sentiment she’s expressing, but she is supremely wrong in a lot of what she said.
Her fixation that taking the violent path is “narcissistic” and “self-important”, that people are acting purely selfishly when they commit political violence. That is of course absurd and insulting to people who have historically given their lives fighting for a good cause. Who knows what this guy was thinking at this point? But he certainly could’ve been motivated by principles and not selfishly at all. If he sees his country sliding into fascism and no one is doing anything about it, he could very well make a case that he is heroically most likely giving his life/freedom to fight back against it. “You don’t care about anyone but yourself” is a completely unjustifiable statement that is unlikely to be true.
The rest of it is sort of a modern liberal screed that violence is always wrong, which is really a scam that the powers that be have run on us. They’ve convinced us that peaceful protest is the only valid and high minded ordeal, and the violence is always wrong, because the reality is that the powerless have very few tools to use against the powerful and violence is the most potent one. They’re trying to deprive of us of that tool by programming it into the culture. At some point, as an oppressed people, violence has to be your last resort. If you refuse to ever use it, you can be forever oppressed.
That said, it’s entirely possible this violence is either unjustified or will backfire and will cause a lot of harm. She could be right about that. It could very well make things worse – justify retaliatory violence and crackdowns. Certainly the media will be complicit in making this work against anti-fascists. They barely made a peep about right wing political assassinations but they’re going to point to this one and talk about evil violent leftists ad nauseam.
The reality is that we’re fast tracking our way into a fascist dictatorship. Troops are on the streets, the president is retaliating against his enemies, I could list dozens of things here. And we’re doing jack shit about it. No strikes, no violent resistance, no real political opposition. Targeted political assassinations may well backfired and make things worse, but the path we’re currently on is an obvious and inevitable slide into hateful and incompetent fascism, so I’m not going to be overly critical of anyone who at least tries to do something.