Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event [now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025]

Nah. There’s a Pez dispenser, but that was poorly thought out.

I have to agree, thanks to what the rock headed poster pointed about Kirk, he is giving us context, alright; but not the whole one. Kirk was concentrating before with conservative economics.

But he just fell for the dark side, and pumped the religion and anti science like many extremists did before.

Kirk’s own evolution was striking: he went from saying, in 2018, that it was important that Christians respect the separation of church and state to denying that any such separation existed in the US constitution.

And in more news of the hagiography front, we have the following.

Chaotic meeting renames stretch of highway in Florida after Kirk. (The bolding is mine.)

And, of course, mandatory membership in Hitler Youth Turning Point USA in schools. (The bolding is mine. The Nazi resemblance is not accidental.)

Those are some big words for someone from a state ranking 50 in education out of the 50 states and DC.

Seriously, how soon will it be when they start tearing down crosses on their churches and erecting a giant K in their place in the Brave New America?

Totally relevant. All your education probably consisted of indoctrination, that’s why you are this stupid but don’t worry, there are good people working to fix this so it can be prevented in the future.

Seriously, get a brain scan. Violating the law is not OK. Not to push your extremist political agendas nor for any other reason.

Here is some context for you in the hopes that you develop better critical thinking skills science boy. I see a lot of baseless inferences without evidence to support it and a biased news article trying to paint Kirk as aligned with movements for which he never publicly expressed any support other than being see in the company of these people.

He was a Christian who would like the US to stay true to its Christian roots. Yawn.

Except that Kirk’s and TPUSA’s entire shtick was “impinging on other people’s shit”. Right-wing indoctrination was his and their entire intent. There was certainly no good faith involved, and the presence of any faith at all is questionable. But he got a lot of money and influence and people like you lining up to fellate him out of it, so why not tell himself it’s all God’s will?

And yes, I’m aware that you think education is indoctrination and indoctrination is education and more guns will produce fewer shootings and that the ass you keep getting handed to you is some kind of victory trophy. Reality really isn’t your shtick.

We’re all embarrassed about you too. All you’ve got is a cavalcade of lies, projection and right-wing dogma and yet you still think you’re “winning”?

Lots of people seriously dispute this, and for good reason and with evidence. But trotting out the “everybody knows” line is standard for right-wing assertions people know they are unable to support.

Something no one can claim about you. Well, you might be serious about this:

But only because your grasp of history is as weak as your grasp of the rest of reality.

Yes, the right are working hard to prevent people from being educated in the future. And you think this is good.

But enough about the American right-wing.

…and then you post them.

This just occurred to me. These white Christian nationalists say they believe in the Trinity. They might as well put up three Ks.

I got a very good education, even in Dixie where I graduated high scool and in California where I graduated university. And here’s the amount of indoctrination I got: zero.

I also learned the difference between relevant and irrelevant.

Where did I say violating the law is okay. Your hero, by the way, is a convicted felon and I’ve always said that’s not okay.

And what, exactly, is my “exetremist political agenda”?

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Yet another magaflathearther who’s against science. Shocker, I know.

The United States of America does not have Christian roots. It’s rather boring your herd keeps bleating that nonsense.

Did I say Christian roots? What I meant to say is diversity is the strength on which the US was built. This the correct accepted phraseology these days right? I really want to get this right. Please ask your professor if you need to.

I know rewriting history is convenient but you’re not fooling anybody.

I’m disappointed no one has more controversial Charlie Kirk quotes to debate. I saw a fake-ass screenshot of a Charlie Kirk tweet being posted before. Maybe that could be mined some more to spread lies and denigrate the man?

Thanks to the poster who was honest and smart enough to point out the false smear by the way.

Thank you for continuing to prove me correct.

The United States of America, as founded in the late 18th century, was created explicitly as a secular nation built on Enlightenment principles and explicitly rejecting government endorsement of any religion. This view was confirmed by multiple “Founding Fathers” including Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.

And “E pluribus unum” has been the traditional motto of the United States from its inception, first appearing on coins in 1786. So it’s been the “accepted phraseology” for centuries.

I know rewriting history is convenient but you’re not fooling anybody.

The fact that religious liberty is enshrined in the constitution and a cornerstone of American identity doesn’t change the fact that the US was founded by people who overwhelmingly had Christian beliefs and values.

Anyway this is not something I wish to litigate here, just another big nothing burger as far as Kirk’s ideology is concerned.

Since sharing links about white christian nationalism is apparently in vogue, I like this opinion piece myself:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3824059/christian-nationalism-charlie-kirk-and-the-useful-idiots-of-left-wing-hate/

OK I misunderstood then. I thought you were against allowing opening Turning Point USA chapters in schools. Turns out it was just some bullshit excuse to call your political opponents Nazis. You just want to pile more violent rhetoric on top of this. Carry on then.

It is great, even outstanding, that you recognize your failures… rare for a troll

As should you. Political indoctrination has no place in education.

Which violates what law exactly???

You are still here too moron? Good to know. I know that this must be a scary moment for you right now because your world view is being challenged in some small way but even a feeble minded cretin with bad breath like you should be able to pull through.

Thank you for confirming that you were “beaten to a pulp” for promoting blatant lies, and are now crying and running away.

You are an extraordinarily stupid troll, and I can only imagine one whose other accounts have been banned for similar inanity.

Until you pop up again with a simililar troll account, I bid you adieu.

Just because you can wear me down with your repetitive bullshit doesn’t mean I ran away but enjoy your moment anyway. I know you were giddy in anticipation and I do not want to take that away from you.

It is noted that he claims to follow critical thinking… by following the talking points of Kirk and his ilk. So according to him I was a religious critic and now I’m a science boy. He is as consistent as baby poop.

When his only counter to the reports of how opportunistic Kirk and Turning Point were/are are not countered with cites, it is clear that there is no critical thinking involved, or he is aware of how shitty his sources are.

Most Christian values aren’t really any different than basic morality. Don’t kill people, don’t steal, don’t lie. Not really any different than the values of any other culture or religion. Sure, the founders were Christians, but it’s pretty evident that they wanted a clear distinction between religion and government. If they wanted the US to be a Christian nation, they could have created an amendment that said something like “A belief in Christianity, being necessary to maintain the morality of the state, shall be imposed on every citizen”. Even so, it’s fine for people like Kirk to try to expand Christianity. Being in a nation with freedom of religion means all religions are free to try to gain followers. If they get into power, they may create laws that are in line with their religion. But that doesn’t mean that Christianity has a right to be the official state religion just because the founders happened to mostly be Christians.