I’m still confused. This completely blows up the Flynn was fired for lying to Pence (18 days later) story, because as head of the transition, Pence already knew. Right?
Yeah, it turns out that Trump did have the traditional 100-day honeymoon phase for a new President.
You’ve got it exactly right.
I cannot tell from the article if Pence was completely briefed or not, but I think not. What I think it says is that that the Turkey connection was revealed to the transition team. What Flynn lied to Pence about is supposed to be the nature of the Kislyak conversations that he had prior to the inauguration. Those conversations are what left him open to blackmail. Two separate threads in the Flynn tapestry.
IIRC, the issue was the fact of the meetings, that they had occurred and that he had denied it. The subject of the conversation might have been daffodils, for all the difference it makes.
Do you think Trump would have gotten his licensing fee if the hotel had not been built?
Do you think the hotel would have been built if this partner hadn’t been able to raise the capital he needed from this asset sale?
Partner sells asset to Russian bank. Partner uses money from that sale to build hotel and pay licensing fee to Trump. It may be totally on the up and up, but the fact that Trump doesn’t have a financial stake in the hotel doesn’t prove anything.
And a recap of the article I found said that a Trump company manages the hotel and residences, so there is an ongoing relationship.
I apologize if I misled you about what the NY Times article states. However, this is worth reading about Pence’s knowledge about Russian ties: Pence’s Relationship with Paul Manafort and Russia
Thank you for the link. I agree completely. Pence should not be overlooked in any investigation. He lost all credibility with me when he decided to turn his back on his so-called morality and remain Trump’s running mate after the Access Hollywood tape came out.
And when news broke of Flynn’s lobbying for Turkey, everyone in the White House said they never knew anything about it. When asked directly, Pence said it was the first he heard about it, but it turned out that Representative Elijah Cummings sent Pence a letter about it in November.
And now todays article indicates that they had already had a big powwow about it before getting that letter.
I’m racking my brain trying to think of anything these assholes have told the truth about, but nothing comes to mind.
Apparently, Trump isn’t bald. So when he says that he’s not bald, he means it.
Granted, the fact that a non-bald man has chosen to use a comb-over as his hairdo could be considered to be a rather obscure, and inexplicable lie.
It may be done to honor his mother Donald Trump's Hair Looks Exactly Like His Mother's, and Twitter Is Freaking Out | Glamour
Reuters: " at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians by Trump campaign"
What? Are they supposed to remember every dozen and a half times that they talked to the Russians?
So many contacts, so few memories of them. They ought to have a doctor evaluate them for memory issues.
And thus they knew or at least had good reason to surmise that when Flynn put a stop to a military plan Turkey opposed, he was doing so for money:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article151149647.html
From yesterday’s CNN interview with Dianne Feinstein:
Blitzer: The last time we spoke, Senator, I asked you if you had actually seen evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, and you said to me — and I am quoting you now — you said, ‘not at this time.’ Has anything changed since we spoke last?
Feinstein: Well, no — no, it hasn’t…
Blitzer: But, I just want to be precise, Senator. In all of the — you have had access from the Intelligence Committee, from the Judiciary Committee, all of the access you have had to very sensitive information, so far you have not seen any evidence of collusion, is that right?
Feinstein: Well, evidence that would establish that there’s collusion. There are all kinds of rumors around, there are newspaper stories, but that’s not necessarily evidence.
I thought that’s what investigations were for: So that random politicians are not responsible for adjudicating these things during interviews. Guess I was wrong. Das Vedanya.
Exactly. Okrahoma, that’s sad.
I like it better when politicians spout off without waiting for the facts to come in. Makes the news ever so much more fun.
I guess he expects Feinstein to breathlessly accuse Trump of something via tweeting. Because that’s the kind of “leadership” that Okrahoma respects; He does not understand when an adult is talking.