Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

That would make the information public, then, wouldn’t it?

As a practical matter, I’m sure Trump will just tell Kasowitz whatever he wants, since Trump seems happy to disclose sensitive information at the drop of a hat anyway. But I wonder about Mueller’s team. Can they refuse to disclose what they’ve found on the grounds that Kasowitz isn’t cleared to see it? Then Trump would have to declassify it, I guess?

In light of recent developments, a proposed slight modification to the thread title:

Trump associates definitely coordinated with Russians, according to Trump associates

Too late, VT:

Her?

Over a hundred posts ago, even. Not exactly a photo finish. :frowning:

No, as I said, I don’t know much about Flynn or Carter etc. They seem to be quite foolish and careless and may be indicted. I am sure that will make a lot of people happy but will not really have any effect on the administration.

I made the offer about this latest brouhaha. Don Jr. Bet on whether he is indicted. So many people here are sure that he committed a crime. (Even “treason”). So - $100 on his indictment.

In fact, I am willing to extend that to “any current (as of today) member of the administration or Don Jr.” - except of course indictments for leaking information, which is probably likely and not what you’re all excited about.

Deal?

So you think 100 to 1 Trump will be in office on Jan 1, 2019? That’s good to know. That’s about as sure as anyone can be of any politician.

Then take the bet.

The main reason I’m not taking you up on your offer is that Trump can block indictments by a timely pardon. In addition, I’m not certain yet that Trump the Lessor is guilty of a crime. I will say he’s one big liar.

Colbert summed it up nicely:

I don’t know what the next iteration is, but the final Iteration is:

“He’s not actually a real Republican, I knew he was guilty from the start and never supported him.”

Why? I think 100 to 1 is about right, and I would not take a bet at those odds. I don’t take bets I might lose with such odds. 1:1 I would take it, definitely.

Then you think that there is a 50% chance of a criminal indictment?

I thought you had Trump’s back better than that.

Doesn’t 1:1 odds indicate basically a 50/50 chance? If bookies were laying 1:1 odds on Mayweather-Floyd doesn’t that indicate that they view it equally likely that either will win? Or probably more accurately that they are getting equal action on both outcomes from betters?

Seems like you are not at all confident if you are only willing to lay 1:1 odds on your prediction.

Obviously was supposed to be Mayweather-McGregor

Oh, man, talk about trying to weasel out of a perfectly fair bet. The basic issue here is the investigation into what influence/actions the Russians had on the campaign. That’s what Mueller is investigating. It is not an investigation that is limited into whether certain people who transitioned into government positions might be in trouble.

So are you now conceding that the Trump campaign was attempting to work with the Russian government at some level during the campaign?

And if your main concern is the “effect on the administration” then why are you making Don Jr. the focus of your bet?

No, I think the odds are lower, but that’s a number I’m throwing out there that I’m willing to bet on. Are you, or are you not so certain he’ll still be in office?

No, I don’t. That is why I would take a 1:1 bet.

He’d be silly to take a bet at anything close to those odds. You can get almost 1:1 on election betting websites.

Okra either doesn’t understand odds or doesn’t have $10k. Or both. Five gets me twenty it’s both. :wink:

And as I said, Flynn or Carter or Manafort may be guilty of something (most likely, stupidity). I don’t dispute that. I don’t think if they are charged with something it will be a big deal, but yes, they may be.

What I was making fun of with my bet was the enthusiasm of you guys about this latest revelation about Don Jr. meeting with the Russian lawyer. So - the bet is about that. If ANYONE (anyone at all) is indicted in connection with this meeting, I lose the bet. Deal?

You mean could it be that a janitor in Trump building may have had some conversation with a Russian “spy”? Sure. I am conceding that.

Doesn’t have to be Don Jr. Could be Kushner. Pence. Bannon. Anyone that is actually in the administration or is related to Trump.