“Legal immigration.” That’s the subject. Not open borders. Why are some legal immigrants more equal than other legal immigrants? What? Unskilled legal immigrant’s dreams don’t count because they don’t have a million dollar stake to get them going?
At least part of the answer seems to be that unskilled legal immigrants are less likely to support themselves and more likely to end up burdening our taxpayers via various welfare programs than skilled, educated, English-proficient ones that have a job lined up already.
America has two competing tendencies here: On the one hand, we want to help others, and one way we can do that is allowing them to immigrate here, even if they don’t seem terribly likely to succeed. It’s quite likely that even a mediocre life in America is better than whatever shithole they’re leaving behind to come here. On the other hand, there’s definitely some hard-nosed self-interest at play, and in that vein, it’s not unreasonable to be more welcoming to immigrants that are more likely to “succeed” than those that aren’t. Canada does it too, and I’m not going to condemn them as selfish pricks for doing so. It seems like a reasonable approach for first-world countries with generous public assistance programs to take.
I’m not opposed to a certain number of unskilled immigrants entering the nation each year.
How… American of you. (Blows kazoo.)
Science is busted, moral criticisms are irrelevant, and all that matters is that this policy vaguely resembles Canada’s in irrelevant ways. Hail Trump!
Great contribution.:rolleyes:
You think we should have any constraints?
Not surprising because Trump does confuse bigoted pseudo science with science.
School lunch is not the same as chalkboards. Since when is it the responsibility of schools to provide free lunches, breakfasts, and even meals in the summertime?
Feeding children is the responsibility of the two parents. Full stop.
I dunno. Do we have a date for the invention of human compassion?
We have a mid-November 2016 date for its death, anyway.
How? How is a system that lets in fewer legal immigrants better? The way in which the system is broken is that it puts too many restrictions on immigrants while our country clearly needs the unskilled laborers who immigrate here illegally. If they didn’t, then the business wouldn’t keep hiring them.
The only way to fix the system is to make it where all the immigrants we need can get here legally. Which means doing the literal opposite of what Trump’s system does.
When I was in high school, some kids did get “free” lunches, but it wasn’t EVERYONE in the school. All others paid cash, or brought their own. And there was no breakfast at all, and the schools weren’t open for lunch in the summer.
Sometimes liberals take compassion to the extreme.
12 is 12/7 = 171.4%. So it’s 71.4% higher than 12. That is way bigger.
LOL is not a substitute for an argument, and I’m not sure why so many people try it. I’m saddened that this 4chan tactic has reached this messageboard.
Yes, really. You see, there’s this little thing called Congress passing it. In CA, the bluest of blue states, for example, the vast majority of congressional districts relying on agriculture for the majority of their economies are red. And in general, similar districts across the country that are affected by this issue are also red.
And then there’s the Senate. All it takes is three Republican Senators, because I guarantee you no one caucusing with the Democrats will vote for it. Crickets. Zip. Zero. Nada. And there will be a number of Republicans under pressure from constituents over this.
So, to reiterate, yeah, really.
Dangit, missed the edit window. I also don’t agree that cutting out the poor from any chance of immigrating here (i.e. refugees) is better at all. It’s spitting in the face of American ethics.
They’re more likely to be or become good little conservatives. Win-win (for the Republicans).
I noted many times before at how the same moves were attempted by the Republicans in California. Back then Pete Wilson won with hate, but in a few years the targets of that hate had united because they realized that the Republicans were not their friends.
It seems that the Republicans do know that this can give them still victories in the short run, but in the long run the result is that not only minorities come to realize how fake the Republican rhetoric is about the immigrants. IMHO a lot of the ones that are Republicans and minorities or involved with immigrants needed to find by personal experience how misleading the Republican arguments are when families are separated or remain separated thanks to their policies.
Republicans never seem to get how counterproductive that is when citizens grow up and remember how their families were treated and not surprisingly become life long Democrats.
One would hope that Republicans would wake up. I think that most of them will go for the hate, but I do hope like you that a good number will not want to join the circular firing squad.
Why do we need unskilled illegal labor if we don’t have real full employment?
It seems off topic but an argument could be made that proper nutrition for children is vital to the well being of the nation. Especially since we have vast food surpluses.
It isn’t about what we need. It’s about what we’re willing to offer. You’ve got your immigration priorities backwards.