Because employers are not willing to pay high enough wages or improve working conditions sufficiently to attract native-born Americans to their jobs.
Of course, doing that means that the cost of things like food and building stuff and having your lawn mowed will also increase.
What is real full employment?
The one issue where liberals want America to be different from the rest of the world.
For what it’s worth, I agree, but Americans seem to overwhelmingly want an immigration system more like what the rest of the world has.
And even if you have more immigration, you’ll still need better enforcement than we have now, because legal immigrants isn’t what a large number of businesses want. They want cheap illegal immigrants and for everyone to look the other way.
It does seem unlikely that any major legislation will pass any time soon, but that does not make this just meat for Trump’s base. It’s a legitimate proposal that would bring US immigration policy more in line with other countries.
The bill does not cut out refugee immigration.
It permanently caps it at 50,000, which is half the current limit.
Oh Jesus. Is this where y’all start arguing that “cutting out the poor from any chance” really means “cap at 50,000”?
Oh Jesus yourself. If you want to abandon America’s historic commitment to refugees, just own it. Don’t claim there are no cuts.
Better than going the other direction.
In a world of over 7.5 billion, it’s not the US taxpayer’s job to offer unlimited aid.
It’s easy to sound “compassionate” on a message board. Acting compassionately in the real world has real costs and resources aren’t infinite.
Nope. It means laws have been passed that destroy incentives for legal labor to take those jobs.
I’m all for paying a free market rate to have my lawn mowed.
If we have people capable of a job but are sitting idle because a job doesn’t pay enough and are collecting welfare while an immigrant does the job I’d say we are not at real full employment.
I never claimed that there were no cuts.
Gotcha. Not established economic theory or anything backed up by BLS data. Just something you’d say.
Trump wants GDP to grow, yet he wants to cut immigration by 500k per year. The working age population 25-64 has been flat since 2007. Labor productivity growth is slow, less than 1% since 2011. So who is going to do the work? While the much-maligned U-3 is at 4.3%, even U-6 at 8.6% is well below average. The last U-6 low in 2006 was only 7.9%. If I’m missing some vast untapped worker resource, please by all means tally them up and show them to us.
If our immigration policy allowed for 7.5 billion immigrants per year, you might have a point, but since it doesn’t, you don’t. No one is asking for the United States to pay the worlds bills and the fact that you view immigrants who aren’t the right sort as a burden and not an asset to this country is telling.
My fault for not being more complete, allowing you to focus on the one example I provided. How about non-refugee poor? You know, the ones who think the streets are paved with gold and (heaven forbid) want a better life?
I won’t bother to quote The New Colossus at you. You either know it or quoting it would mean nothing to you.
Regardless, this so-called ‘plan’ will disproportionately impact a few industries, most importantly the one mentioned above which has the power to defeat it.
But you made the implication that it can pass Congress. So let’s hear your logic on that point.
In Thailand, I dealt with large numbers of Thais who were highly educated but could barely put together a basic sentence in English. Many of these were indeed PhD holders, particularly in the wife’s university office. I edited many of their papers, and the English was simply atrocious.
The worst may have been skilled engineers. They knew all the trade words, but that was about it. I remember this one poor guy who dreamed of getting his master’s degree at a US university, but despite having years of experience as a highly skilled engineer, university after university rejected him for his poor English scores. He finally resorted to outright begging, bringing me letters to edit, letters that basically said, “Please please let me into your school, and if you do, I promise, really promise, to study English so very, very hard. Please, please, oh please won’t you accept me?” Got to be heartbreaking at the end, and I stopped editing his letters, telling him no one was going to let him into their school just for begging and promising to study English… He never did get accepted anywhere.
But there are lots of people like that the world over – highly educated but cannot speak English. In fact, one former Thai foreign minister was ridiculed because he could not speak a word of English and yet somehow had made it through a PhD program in Wisconsin.
Off topic, but I feel compelled to whistle and applaud for…
About friggin’ time! Is there any polling on that, about how many Americans *already *believe that military service ensures citizenship, or at the very least, permanent legal residence? I am further pleased to note that the bill contains language to expedite the return of such veterans to their adopted home.
The non-refugee poor can’t immigrate today so this bill isn’t a change one way or another for them.
As I said before, there is wide agreement that the current process is broken. This is a reasonable legislative starting point and in normal times it would be more likely than not to end in a change to the law. Obviously we are not in normal times. Democrats have no inclination to work with Trump on anything and Republicans aren’t cohesive enough on this issue to pass it themselves.
It’s telling? Oh no!!!
All communication is telling.:rolleyes:
Your implication that any constraints on immigration is somehow bad should be supported by more than a weak appeal to emotion.
You mean, like an appeal to humanity and decency? From a strictly rational point of view, how are they to be distinguished from “emotions”?
There are already extremely expedited citizenship provisions for military personnel. But they aren’t retroactive, and you do actually have to apply.
Many of the sad stories you head about veterans being deported involve serious criminal convictions. Many of these people would have been eligible for citizenship, but they never got around to applying, and now they are no longer eligible because of the criminal convictions.