With the polls this close, whoever gets the voters out wins. I would generally say that Hillary’s campaign is probably much more organized to drag people to the polls, but looking at the number of people that get out of their houses and show up to Trump’s rallies vs. Hillary’s is staggering. That’s the one thing that gives me pause, but the machine of the Democratic party will be more focused on getting voters out than to a rally. Edge goes to Hillary, but it won’t be a landslide.
Trump better not win. Because if he does I’m going to have murder the rest of America to save us all from the Apocalypse and the 1,000 year reign of Satan.
My prediction is the popular vote will be close, Trump might win that. Electoral vote Clinton.
It will be closer than it should be in the popular vote, but Hillary will still win. If she doesn’t, we need all to come together in a spirit of bi-partisanship and join with Drunky Smurf.
Regards,
Shodan
At least this election is uniting very diverse Dopers!
Yes, the fix for eight years of a democratic presidency is an incurious businessman because that worked so well the last time.
I think more people will vote for Trump than will admit. I don’t think it will put him over the top but I won’t be surprised.
Quick question for people who hate Obamacare: How will repealing the ACA stop insurance companies from raising your premiums? ![]()
Yes, but the last incurious businessman that was President had a record of running companies into bankruptcy.
Who was that?
How is that different from Trump’s record?
Well for one, previously uninsured people would go to emergency rooms as their primary source of medical care. They had no insurance, so the ER would attempt to collect from the individuals, but in most cases these bills would go unpaid, and the ER and/or associated hospitals would absorb these costs.
The belief was that if everyone was insured, then previously uninsured people would start using primary care physicians which are less expensive than going to the ER for a bad cold. Well that didn’t happen.
http://obamacarefacts.com/2015/05/05/study-shows-er-visits-up-under-aca/
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2016/02/18/obamacare-has-barely-made-a-dent-in-er-visits
http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/study-medicaid-expansion-had-little-effect-er-use
So now those expensive ER visits are being absorbed by the insurance carriers, and they must raise insurance premiums for everyone to cover those costs. The ones that have made out like bandits are the ERs and associated hospitals.
They continue to charge high prices, but are paid now by fully insured customers without having to write-off a significant portion of their revenues from non-paying customers.
ACA just shifted who absorbed the costs of healthcare for 20 million people from ER’s to the rest of the American people.
Scratch that. Reverse it. Hillary winning would be karma for the hard work she has done to make the US a better place and all the hard work that that President Obama has done to do the same. Ignoring the attempted fix by Comey would be karma.
The “Thank Og” collectively signed when Hillary wins will be Palpable. There might not be smog for days.
I look forward to when the constant Trump lies are finally jammed back down the throats of the knuckle-draggers spouting them.
Obama was the Best thing to happen since Clinton and once we have continuation assured of COMPETENT government, then we can start to root out the thieves and tax-dodgers from local government.
Happens when a Bush orders up two wars and skips out when the check comes.
George W. Bush. His businesses that failed include Arbusto and Spectrum 7 Energy, and there was a bit of a scandal with Harken Energy. Though the companies failed, Bush walked away with millions.
How is failing at business and walking away with millions of dollars in investors’ money different from Trump? It isn’t, really. Except I think Bush was legitimately incompetent, and Trump is an actual con man.
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That’s my take as well.
Poll: In Canada, even Conservatives would vote Clinton over Trump
Now, it’s from last April, but I don’t think Obama/Clinton have done anything that would move the needle here in Canada towards Trump.
And here’s a more recent one from August:
Democrats would beat Donald Trump in a landslide — if only Canada joined the Union
The fact that Trump could only poll at 26% in Texas North sums it up nicely.
Put simply, Canuckistan likes Obama; likes Clinton; despises Trump.
When Obama won, the Republicans decided it was their principle goal to make his administration a failure.
If Trump wins, the Democrats will have to make it their principle goal to prevent his administration from being a failure.
For true and loyal Americans, the good of the country comes first. The Republicans have not been acting like true and loyal Americans. The Democratic opposition must be better than that.
If we had 24/7 news media outlets in 1984 they would’ve portrayed that race as a horserace up until the end to keep people watching long enough to sit through the commercials.
Not that Clinton will win by a 20 point margin like Reagan did, but she will probably win 50-40 over trump.
And you truly believe that hospitals absorbed those costs rather than folding them into the rates they charge. Believe me they didn’t. They were just part of the cost structure. In some cases quite obviously. Many of them added them to the costs they charged non-insured patients.
In 1999 my son went in for surgery. It was something that should have been covered by insurance but was treated as a pre-existing condition even though we’d been covered by the same insurance company since he was 5, and had been covered by some insurance company since before his birth. They sent us a copy of the bill they submitted to the insurance company even though we told them, the company wouldn’t pay it. When it didn’t, in fact pay it, they sent us a new bill for quite a bit more – and yes it was for the same things. I did an item by item comparison.
Unlikely, but still possible. I can’t comment on who is more correct without knowing more about their data and methodology. But at least they are looking at the big picture in aggregate instead of cherry-picking polls that fit a partisan narrative.
Absorbing these costs and folding them into the rates they charge are the same thing. Since ACA, the hospitals didn’t lower the rates at which they charge, even though they collect much more through most everyone being covered by insurance. They are making more profits. Conversely, the insurance companies have raised the premiums on everyone.
Follow the money. The burden of taking on the costs of people who treat the ER as their primary care physician was shifted to the rest of the American people.