I mean, you have a point - but this kid is part of his dad’s campaign now, and his dad is trying to defend himself from claims that he’s a serial harasser, so… its relevant.
And - choosing to go on a radio show and spew some dumb/offensive shit is kinda your choice. You have to live with the consequences.
In summary, Trump’s kid’s words would be close to meaningless in terms of my vote in a vacuum - but in this context, they are fair game. (As are the various allegations against Bill Clinton - difference is, Hilary has not defended any of her husband’s alleged misconduct. Even more importantly, she doesn’t do this stuff herself.)
To put it another way related to your analogy: it’s more like the kid of an accused serial killer (Trump hasn’t been indicted yet, let alone convicted or confessed) talking about how killing hobos would be no big deal, and really, those hobos should’ve been off the streets, and…
Do you really and truly think men got to beat the shit out of women back then and it was just hunky-dory? Seriously, do you?
The success of the counterculture revolution is much less a mystery to me after having discovered this board. You people will buy into anything, no matter now idiotic, and then say “Hey, I’ve got a great idea! Let’s throw the baby out with the bathwater!”
And then when someone, usually a conservative, says, “You know, that might not be such a good idea”, you’ll screech “WOMAN BEATER!!!”
If there was bad stuff in the past, you’ve shown yourself incapable of recognizing it. All the older black people, and nearly all the older women I’ve spoken to say that there were absolutely terrible things about the 50s, and times are much, much better now.
I’m certainly not going to take the word of an old white guy over theirs when they were the ones affected by all the shit from our past.
Sorry, but we’re talking about relatively picayune stuff like how women apparently can no longer successfully cope with attention from men…or something.
At any rate, I’m sure the families and loved ones of all those who’ve ruined their lives or died from drugs, or been raped, beaten shot and killed due to street gang violence or because some career criminal with dozens of offenses on his record is free and roaming the streets, will be happy to hear that this mysterious little coterie of old people you always seem to have handy to back up your assertions think that things are better today.
And now, what do you believe? Do you believe that spousal abuse didn’t happen in the old days? Or do you believe that whenever it did, men were arrested and prosecuted? Do you believe that the women’s shelters that are new since the 50s are full of women who are making up their stories? Were the newspapers back in the day full of stories of women being stalked? How about restraining orders and the men who defy them and beat or kill the women who asked for protection? Does that not happen or were they no need for such things because men and women always got along before men started being demonized? What is your understanding of the history of wifebeating? Please, tell us. We need your wisdom to show us the real past.
The murder rate is lower today than it was in 1960, and much lower than the 70s through the 90s. Further, things that were legal or de-facto legal back then (like lots of forms of spousal abuse and rape, as well as various brutalizations of minorities) are now actually illegal now and thus tracked in the crime rate.
Yes. If the cops came, it wasn’t because she was getting beat, it was because they were making too much noise. Cops did not take spousal abuse seriously.
Just because you didn’t personally see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Interesting trivia. Tennessee was the first State to formally outlaw wife beating, in 1850. Before that, beating your wife was perfectly legal. Tracey Thurman had to sue the City of Torrington, Ct in 1984 to get the cops to pay attention.
But the murder rate is up in Chicago! That disproves everything you said! Cities are much more dangerous today! All crime is up everywhere! I see newspaper headlines about crime! I was too young to read newspapers in the 1950s and so I never read any stories about crime! So it didn’t happen! Leave my memories alone! They’re pure and good and sylvan and copacetic!