Trump Pressured Georgia Official to ‘Find’ Enough Votes to Overturn Election

Thanks for the upload. I was wracking my brain after reading @Alessan’s post trying to figure out where I’ve heard that “underworld subtext speak gone awry” before. Mitchell & Webb are always good for a laugh.

Never. They know that secretive abuses of power work better.

Regardless of what you think Trump believes, those 11780 votes DO NOT EXIST. There is no way to “find” them unless you make them up. And I think he knows that and that is exactly what he was implying. Hence Trump saying “there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you’ve recalculated.”

Ha! Good one.

Could he be impeached after the expiration of his term to strip him of his pension and forestall the prospect of him running in '24?

In PA, MI, and WI, the governors are Democrats. It’s the state legislatures that are Republican.

A sitting President can clearly be removed from office, denied a pension, and forbidden from running again. If a former President can be impeached, the same penalties could presumably be imposed. That’s a big if.

This article has a good discussion of the issues and uncertainties:

Let’s be clear, so that there is no confusion.

Trump did not actually utter the words “Raffensperger, I want you to commit election fraud by making up fake votes for me. If you do not do this, I will order your family killed.”

So therefore, Trump is completely innocent of any wrongdoing, correct? That’s the bar for the Trumplican Party at this point.

Also, Trump is allowed to tweet some made up stories about the conversation that took place, and if someone DARES to actually release the exact words that Trump said, why that is completely unacceptable! Only Dear Leader is allowed to tell us what words he said. Any disagreement with Dear Leader is a horrible act!

Remember how Trump never uttered the phrase “quid pro quo”, therefore it was a perfect phone call and there was no collusion?

Or how Benghazi happened because Obama refused to say “radical Islamic terrorism”?

Same logic - unless you utter the magic words, it doesn’t count.

As the Lead Stories fact check link shows, context is important. Those votes DO EXIST and have been counted. Trump is referring to what his lawyers believe are INVALID votes cast for Biden… not uncounted votes.

But it’s bullshit.
You saw this, right?

One of Zuckerberg’s fact-checkers which ain’t sayin’ much.

What his lawyers believe has no factual basis or evidence behind it. As bobot so succinctly put it… It’s bullshit.

Allegations of invalid votes for Biden are complete, unmitigated, made up laughable bullshit. Go listen to the video of the REPUBLICAN Georgia secretary of state explain exactly why these allegations are BULLSHIT.

The claims by Trump and his band of nitwits have no evidence. Whatsoever. They are delusional rantings of idiots. That’s all.

Is this clear enough?

Clear is never enough.

:smirk_cat:

As I was reading through it, all I could think is that not only did his cheese slip off of his cracker, it took off at the speed of Usain Bolt.

Between tomorrows’ Georgia runoff, Mike Pence working the Electoral process, and the Proud Boys descending on DC on the 20th, we are in for some interesting times.

Moderating

Coming into a thread to “debunk” a claim no one has made is trolling.

Warning issued.

I kinda wish the House would Impeach Trump again. I think we still have enough folks there to do it.

Sure, the Senate won’t Convict him. There won’t be a Removal.

I just like the idea of Trump having been Impeached at the start and the end of his term. It’s like he received an F the first semester and the second semester despite his daddy/mommy blustering.

Proud boy leader has just been arrested, and may face a weapons charge. So possibly no carousing around DC for him in the next while.