Oh, dear. Oh, my.
HeweyLogan seems to be doorhinge without the silly nicknames.
That’s a good question. I’d love to see it answered.
I was fine with things after 2011.
Lemme guess - Wizard of Oz? Fitzgerald? Thoreau?
Dear God - Lippy and Harpy?
Sorry, Hardy.
One more time braindeaddumbfuck.
Obama never had the long form.
It was in the possession of the State of Hawaii.
It was the State of Hawaii’s decision to release it.
The request to release it could have been denied by the State of Hawaii.
Trump(and others) kept up the birther shit right up until a few days ago.
Do you really not understand what I was getting at? I was and am saying that it was an issue that was brought up that could have quickly been dismissed. But it wasn’t, for all kinds of reasons and from every political party, not just the racist Republicans.
That’s all. Why others are now pursuing the matter I can’t explain or defend - I don’t have a problem with it anymore.
This may be hard for you to wrap your head around, so sit down, take a deep breath, and continue reading…
You are the damn birther I was talking about!
Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. That was known in 2008. Hell, it was known in 1961. You seem to think that because you only held on to this ridiculous notion until 2011 that somehow you’re the reasonable one in this discussion.
So I’ll ask again. Why can’t you, HeweyLogan, just say “I was wrong. Obama was born in Hawaii all along. It wasn’t an issue, it never should have been an issue”?
Because it was an issue Robot Arm. Enough so that Obama released his long form in 2011.
Why? Well because it was an issue on both sides.
Am I fine with it now? Absolutely.
Was I in 2008 and I should repent my thoughts at that time?
No.
Not complicated. Not worth the number of posts spent dwelling on it now.
No, it really wasn’t. A lie doesn’t magically become true if you just get enough people talking about it.
Why did you believe it after 2008? He released his birth certificate and a mountain of other proof, with zero contrary evidence. Why wasn’t that enough?
It was a non-issue for anyone with a brain after he released his birth certificate and a mountain of other evidence in 2008. There was no legitimate reason to question his birthplace after that. Why did you?
You might find out that there are some double standards even in the pit.
Or, if you’re not stupid, you might find the sticky at the top of the goddamn forum about pit rules. Fuck.
Oh. How edgy.
Who cares about his father? I mean, there was never any doubt that his mother was from Kansas, right? You only need one parent for citizenship.
You don’t even need one. Just be born in the right place.
Once again, none of this explains your non sequitur to my remark.
But yeah, we understand what you are getting at. We’re just saying that what you are getting at is lame, stupid, and irrelevant, and is something only a fuckwit would bring up in the first place. And although we’ve pointed out why, you still keep making the same idiotic points.
The fact that you ever had a problem with it means you’re a fuckwit.
Now that’s more like it! 
(I am obligated to inform you, however, that there are a few language restrictions even in the Pit, one of which is that you’re not supposed to tell other posters to go fuck themselves. You are, though, allowed to call me a prick, although only occasionally.:))
As I said already, when I’m posting as a poster you don’t have to treat me any differently than any other poster. But you do seem to be pretty slow on the uptake.
I doubt that very much.
As pointed out repeatedly, no, it actually wasn’t a significant issue with any Democrats after a transient flurry of questions in 2008. Because Democrats (even if they supported Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama) had the common sense to look at the immediately evident well-documented facts about Obama’s birth and acknowledge right away that the questions had been adequately answered.
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Am I fine with it now? Absolutely.
Was I in 2008 and I should repent my thoughts at that time?
No.
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Well, thank you for that candid admission that you are so much dumber than the typical Democrat that it took you about three years to recognize simple facts that the Democrats were able to process in about three minutes.
Here’s my take, since no one asked.
The first time I heard the accusation, I thought that it’s certainly legitimate to question any candidate’s qualification: they have to be at least 35, a natural-born citizen, and a resident of the United States for the previous fourteen years. And the burden of proof rests on the candidate: he or she cannot say, “Prove I haven’t been a resident.”
In this case, the accusation was that Obama was born in Kenya. I thought he needed to release his birth certificate – and he did in 2008. When I heard someone dismiss that as a forgery, my reaction was that if it was, the burden of proof had still shifted: now it’s on the person claiming forgery to show it’s a forgery.
And when the birth announcement in the Honolulu paper was found, again still in 2008, in my view that settled it, absent some truly extraordinary evidence – evidence which never did surface, of course.
But I could not imagine any fakery that would reliably alter announcements printed in contemporary papers… unless it involved a fast Delorean or a British police box.
That said, I still believe in his heart, Obama is a Keynesian.
All you needed to know was that the Bush Administration, with access to investigative channels exceeding even those of Trump and Arpaio, provided nominee Obama millions of dollars worth of Secret Service protection, and did not pull an October surprise on him.
Before that? Sounds like it was.
We?
The board? The mods? Who?
Regarding “something only a fuckwit would bring up”, I hope you include the Democrats who initially questioned his credentials into that equation.
And regarding this whole line of questioning, it was a small (very small) point of a larger comment I was making. The rest of it has gone ignored. Which is cool.