Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either

They have been getting clickbaity lately

Don’t you mean “Ronny Johnson”?.:slight_smile:

Because clickbait works. It provably and significantly works.

If there is an issue, it’s not that it’s clickbait per se; rather, the lads of MeidasTouch will take any Trump or surrogate or other GOP asshole quote and turn it into a lonnnnggg video that is not quite deserving of the time spent watching.

Other than that, I don’t have many issues with their content.

Yup, and I bet he’s going to the Turkish bath to steam off the water weight and look like DYNAMITE for the big night!

I’ll agree with those that are positing that MeidasTouch has clickbaity titles. It does seem to be getting worse recently but there has been a lot of big news recently as well. The actual content is usually pretty good even if it does sound a little similar to a thread on this board sometimes.

It isn’t just that it works but that it’s the only way to please the algorithim gods.

This is accurate. A lot of times I’ll click on their video and turn it off after a minute or two because they don’t really have anything to say.

Indeed!

I’m pretty sure this is a Youtube thing where videos have to be padded out to ten minutes to maximize the ad revenue. I have noticed this channel and a bunch of others doing videos that are ten minutes long and very repetitive.

Seriously?

I think there would be an advertising issue.

Unlike the Commission on Presidential Debates productions, which were advertising-free, the CNN production is a Super-Bowl type of ad buy. I cannot believe advertisers would pay much for a broadcast where Joe Biden gives a ninety minute speech. They wouldn’t even pay what they do for normal CNN programming.

If I was Susie Wiles, I’d advise Trump to threaten to not debate. Anything to draw attention away from popular Biden policies such as on abortion is a plus for Trump. I think this news today is another example of a popular Biden policy Trump should be trying to shout over:

Biden offers path to citizenship to spouses of US citizens

As for Trump actually not debating, that would show a lack of his typical cunning. He debated Hillary Clinton. He debated Biden before. The reasons to debate have not changed.

The thread title underestimates the adversary. While adversaries sometimes make mistakes, do not count on it.

I believe you’re right.

He also ditched a Biden debate.

But the reasons not to debate have changed.

Au contraire, for Trump, showing up would be the big mistake.

Trump wouldn’t even debate other Republicans seeking to be the GOP’s nomination this year. And he didn’t debate them because there was nothing to gain. It could only have hurt him. He has nothing to gain from debating Biden and only something to lose. I’m not going to bet the farm that Trump won’t debate, but I’m going to be surprised if he does.

Right! He has nothing to gain in debating Biden because he knows he can’t land any punches but will be pummeled with his 34 felonies and infinite other opprobrious conduct. He has something to lose if Biden seems cognitively with it while Trump doesn’t. It’s a losing proposition for him all around.

He didn’t debate them because he thought it was a waste of time. He had the same attitude in the 2016 debates. He’s gone on record as saying he sees the general debate differently.

More to the point, this debate was his idea. If he backs out now he’ll look like the coward, not Biden. I think a lot of you are underestimating the amount of self-inflicted ego damage he would suffer by dropping out.

Not every debate.

If you mean that Trump is going to show age-related memory loss, probably, but so may Biden. And it’s worse if it happens to Biden, because competence is his lane. Blowing up normality is Trump’s lane, so saying dumb stuff doesn’t hurt his brand as much.

And by election day, June debate performance will be forgotten by swing and uncertain-to-vote voters. All that will be remembered is the fact that neither man chickened out of debating.

You’ll understand why I don’t take Trump’s word at face value. If he told me the sky was blue I’d still have to double check for myself.

You have a valid point and it’s why I’m not absolutely convinced Trump won’t show up. But ever since Biden took him up on his challenge, Trump has been laying the groundwork to allow him to bow out while saving face. But like his pre-election and pre-trial customs of saying it’s all rigged, he could just be laying the groundwork to save face when he does poorly and complains afterward about how the debate was rigged in Biden’s favor.

No, it was a joke, sorry.

As I pointed out a few days ago, he’s bragging that he agreed to the debate and “now CNN doesn’t know what to do”. In his mind, he thinks he called CNN’s bluff by agreeing to their terms, and now he has Sleepy Joe right where he wants him. Trump absolutely believes the Sleepy Joe stuff, BTW; the only reason he issued his challenge in the first place, IMO, is because he assumed Biden’s “handlers” would force him to say no.

Or, to put it in meme format;

The rest of his bluster is the standard boilerplate “If I lose it was rigged” stuff he does all the time.