Trump won't rule out 3rd term

(And simultaneously for a while the “by 2024 he’ll be in prison” can. How did that work out?)

Too many people and institutions wasted so much time wishing for him to either be removed from contention by a greater power or just get tired and decide to f*** off.

Like a horrible example of The Bystander Effect.

I couldn’t decide where to place this comment. There’s an actual 'Ballroom" thread and I think the following has been mentioned in another thread.

Today I saw El Gordo rambling about the ballroom AGAIN, but this time I noticed he kept emphasizing how great it will be for “the inauguration”, and that it’s “bullet proof and drone proof”. How many people find this particularly chilling? I don’t like to come off as paranoid, but to me, that is dog whistley as hell. Why does the inauguration, that he is ostensibly ineligible for -if he even lives that long - need to be indoors in a fortified building? He sure as hell isn’t thinking about the safety of some lunatic leftie? Please, one you level headed folks tell me it’s just more of his nonsense.

He’s got dementia. He’s rambling about an inauguration that will never happen in a ballroom that will never exist.

But didn’t you hear? It’s ahead of schedule and under budget :roll_eyes:

A question to everyone that says there is nothing to worry about when it comes to Trump staying in office after this term is up: If you are wrong, will you apologize for being wrong, will you still claim that somehow you are still technically correct, or will you just ignore it like it never happened?

If I’m wrong, then I expect that I’ll be dead and in no position to apologize for anything.

Because there’s no scenario in which Trump is still president after 1/20/29 that doesn’t result in civil war and the total collapse of the US, which I do not expect to survive.

If there is time enough to respond (and I fully expect there will be), how will you?

“Huh, I wonder what that bright light in the sky over there wa-”

Yeah, cute answer. Anyone other deniers of the possibility of Trump finding a way to stay in office care to actually respond?

Yeah, just like all the other things he could never get away with because they’d spark a civil war.

The civil war? Not happening. Ever. It doesn’t matter how bad things get. Americans don’t have the spine for it, we’ll just submit the same way we’ve been submitting.

Can you imagine how outraged the American people would be if a sitting president attempted to use mob violence to stay in power?

There are really no demarcations. No ‘North and South’. Sure the east and west coast are more blue. But what about your neighbor? I have zero clue about the politics of my neighbors in this entire subdivision. We don’t advertise.

I did see someone I don’t know with a MAGA hat on in a Mexican restaurant though. First one I’ve seen in years. I felt very sorry for the people that had to wait on him and felt like telling him to fuck off. At the very least it’s rude to wear any hat in a restaurant. But that hat in a mexican restaurant?

He was quite old and probably clueless. Well obviously. All MAGA are.

Trump’s statement is rational.

A big ballroom can be built in two years, especially when building codes are optional.

You can include bulletproof glass.

You can spend another year on security features.

As for who will be inaugurated in 2029, I agree with Donald Trump that it will be somebody. Trump will try to make sure it is not a Democrat. He would like it to be himself but does not know if that is possible. It depends on how much more power he can consolidate in the next few years, and also on his health. All of that is hard to predict, no matter who is doing the predicting.

I have seen people with dementia. They were nothing like Trump. He does have age related memory loss.

The most comforting recent development on this topic is that the couch fucker is publicly collecting endorsements with no pushback from the orange asshole and no surprise from anyone in the Republican party. No Republicans expect this administration to continue beyond the next election. The administration even lost the Supreme Court on the issue of deploying troops in Chicago. Perhaps they have realized that they lose any power if they just give it all to the administration and I’m not convinced they will rubber-stamp and third term. Holding power forever is for the judiciary alone.

And that he seems increasingly unlikely to live long enough to see anyway. I know the claims that Trump will be dead in a month or two may be overblown, but “dead within three years” isn’t.

I still expect Vance and his pals to fuck with the 2028 election though.

My experience is different. My father had dementia and I saw it close up for ten years. A lot of stuff Trump says reminds me very strongly of things my dad said.

Example from his first term: his coloring an American flag with schoolchildren. The kids were using the right colors. Trump was coloring the flag brown. When snarky comments were made, he was all (paraphrasing) “What? I was doing it perfectly fine. You can color a flag brown.” That is EXACTLY the kind of thing my dad said when his faculties were going. There were pieces of recognition left (it’s a flag, it has colors) but others were gone (what the colors were supposed to be); and then confusion and indignation when people said he was wrong because he couldn’t figure out anymore what the missing connection is. Other examples were my dad using odd words because he couldn’t remember what the real word was and substituted whatever word came into his head. Trump does that constantly. And there is so, so much more.

When it was my dad, it was tragic for him and for us. When it’s Trump, it is terrifying for the country and the world.

Edit: Age-related memory loss is a different animal. No doubt Trump has that too. But that’s normal to a certain degree in everyone; the dementia caused by Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, vascular disease and other syndromes is not.

Yes, my dad has age-related memory loss. My mom had Alzheimers. They can both cause problems but they’re very different things.

Unproven, and that means, to me, by itself, unlikely. See:

Snopes August 2018: Did President Trump Incorrectly Color the American Flag?

But we have an additional input not available when the above fact check was written seven years ago. We know that, six years later, Trump had the mental acuity to win election as U.S. president, and that seven years later, he can still make a long extemporaneous speech which has some new material. That makes the 2018 claim, about coloring the flag incorrectly showing he then had dementia, even more implausible.

I think a third term is unlikely because swing voters would not vote for Trump. But I do not think evaluations of his mental condition, made by people who would never consider voting for him, are much of a factor.

If he gets a third term, it won’t be the result of an election. It will be the result of no election. So, actually, an endless second term.